Dr. Sacrebleu Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 It is the new insult in presidential races. Yet, I dunno, someone who is running fro president and has gotten to the final round is kind of de facto in rarefied air. Yet everyone tries to run as if they were a local cabdriver. My favorite "just plain folks" moment was in 92 when Bush Sr. derided Clinton by saying that as opposed to his opponent, he hadn't gotten a "fancy education" at Oxford. Is Bill Clinton, who picked himself completely up by the bootstraps elite? Is GWBush who has had almost everything in his life handed to him by the rich and powerful, yet seems to truly enjoy the simpler things in life an elite? Is Obama a man of seeming middle to upper middle class upbringing who obviously enjoys intellectual pursuits elitist? And why has it become such a bad word? Truly interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I think being an elitist is to think that they deserve preferential treatment because they believe themselves to be superior than others... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I think being an elitist is to think that they deserve preferential treatment because they believe themselves to be superior than others... I am elitist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I am elitist. And despite that fact, I'd still vote for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopazz Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I am elitist. And I'm currently cooking ribs on a Weber Genesis. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Voters don't really pay attention. They don't do the work to see who is BS'ing them over voting in their own best interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 a person who eats a snickers bar with a knife and fork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 And I'm currently cooking ribs on a Weber Genesis. Deal with it. If you had an Egg, you wouldn't have to "cook" ribs, you would be able to smoke them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Being an elitest has nothing to do with where someone started out, it is their personal view of their current station in life and that of others. Each of the candidates are already in the upper 1% of the country in earnings I would suspect and Clinton throwing the term is rather amusing since they made over $100 million since Bill left office all thanks to him speaking to entities probably looking to buy influence. I believe that McCain married into a fortune and probably Obama is the least wealthy (so far) but his holdings are over a million I believe. These politicians live in a world that is all about power, privilege and ego. Each is surrounded by so many yes-men and hangers-on that they are constantly fed how great they are and could literally do anything they wanted and still have the inner circle stand by them. Throwing around the term elite is supposed to mean the person is not connected with the general populace. And none of the three is remotely connected with what life is like for the average american. In no way. It is laughable to think that they have any connection or that they pretend to. None of them have ever produced anything in their lives or contributed to society beyond being in politics or law. After McCain was released as a POW certainly would have been an impact on his life unlike the other two, but he married weathy and has been in politics so long that his military experiences have been overshadowed. They are all elite and we are all mindless sheep if we think any thing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 And I'm currently cooking ribs on a Weber Genesis. Deal with it. I can only get about 5 t-bones on my grill and I usually burn them while posting at the Huddle so I'm not an elitist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 These politicians live in a world that is all about power, privilege and ego. Each is surrounded by so many yes-men and hangers-on that they are constantly fed how great they are and could literally do anything they wanted and still have the inner circle stand by them. Most professional athletes are elitists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Most professional athletes are elitists. Absolutely. Then again, they are not making decisions that directly impact many facets of your life. Just maybe your fantasy team. Pretty much everyone successful in entertainment is an elitest as well which is amusing when they spout their political views after cashing a $10,000,000 check for six months of work being catered and pandered to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I think what people miss here is words like liberal and elitist are ways of labeling people as un-acceptable. Rather than looking at their experience or expertise at what they do they are being called phonies, people who don't understand or care about your issues because they are out of touch or think they are better than you(Elitist). Te debate is curtailed as to who represents your interest and it becomes a debate of personality and not of what kind of leader they would be. The Bush debate about who would you rather have a beer with is still dumb. Who wants a world leader based on who you'd rather go a bar be que with anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 a person who eats a snickers bar with a knife and fork Where's Puddy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 Where's Puddy? He's looking for his napkin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Millionaire senators are in touch with the people. Bill cliton was bought and paid for by the chinese since his early days. George Bush likes baseball and apple pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Fly fishing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Runt Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Good answers, all. But in the end, I'LL decide what is elitist and what isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Good answers, all. But in the end, I'LL decide what is elitist and what isn't. That sounds pretty elitist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 (edited) Being elite is merely being at the top of your field (academically, economically, professionally, etc), relative to the others in that field. There's nothing wrong with that. If anything, we should be striving to better ourselves in order to become elite. What, we should all be drooling morons so that stoopid people don't get their feelings hurt? No, that would suck. Being elite is good. Its a measurement of ability and merit. Being elitist is a mentality that may or may not be tied to being at the top of your field. Ultimately, being elitist just means you conduct yourself as though you are better than others. And that's snobby and rude, even if you are better than everyone else. Nobody likes being looked down upon, even if they do realize they are lower than average on the social food chain. Edited April 21, 2008 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 It's the Egg, I tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 great question. az? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I don't really think I need to add anything to this conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Being elite is merely being at the top of your field (academically, economically, professionally, etc), relative to the others in that field. There's nothing wrong with that. If anything, we should be striving to better ourselves in order to become elite. What, we should all be drooling morons so that stoopid people don't get their feelings hurt? No, that would suck. Being elite is good. Its a measurement of ability and merit. Being elitist is a mentality that may or may not be tied to being at the top of your field. Ultimately, being elitist just means you conduct yourself as though you are better than others. And that's snobby and rude, even if you are better than everyone else. Nobody likes being looked down upon, even if they do realize they are lower than average on the social food chain. That's the better meaning of it. We have an elite military. Liberal had a better meaning too until the right trashed it over the years. a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. c. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism. d. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States. 2. a. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor. b. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes. 3. Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation. 4. Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education. 5. a. Archaic Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman. b. Obsolete Morally unrestrained; licentious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 It's the Egg, I tell you. right on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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