Alright... maybe I have been played...

[Duchess Jack]

But I think that this guy should rot in prison until the end of his days.

 

Send a Christian, a Jew, a Morman and jehovah witness to him every day - have them speak into a loud speaker while sitting outside the cell and evangelize.

 

Give him daily menus with choices of delicious meals including pork or the most horrible tasting and looking but adequately nutritious meals.

 

Put a TV outside his cell that shows nothing more than infomercials - with an emphasis on Tony Little and Tony Robbins

 

Kahlid Shekh Mohammed wants the death penalty

 

GUANTANAMO BAY, Cuba (CNN) -- Two al Qaeda figures accused in the September 11 attacks told a U.S. military judge Thursday that they want to die as martyrs.

 

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, right, is seated in the courtroom near co-defendant Walid bin Attash.

 

1 of 3 "If I'm killed, I will be killed for the sake of God," said Ramzi bin al-Shibh, who is accused of helping coordinate the attacks. "I've been seeking to be a martyr for years."

 

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who claims to be the mastermind behind the attacks, said he wished to dismiss his lawyers and plead guilty.

 

The judge, Marine Col. Ralph Kohlmann, asked Mohammed numerous times whether he understood that he faces the death penalty. Mohammed told Kohlmann he could not accept any attorney because he believes only in Sharia, or Islamic law.

 

"That is what I wish. I wish to be martyred," he said.

 

The two men made the statements at their long-awaited arraignments at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

 

Mohammed, al-Shibh and three co-defendants, all al Qaeda suspects, were arraigned on numerous charges for their alleged roles in the September 11 terrorist attacks, which killed nearly 3,000 people.

 

It is the first time that reporters have been able to see the accused al Qaeda operatives, who were all in the same room for the first time since their arrests in 2002 and 2003.

 

The defendants were seated at separate tables. None stood when Kohlmann entered. They spoke freely among themselves throughout the proceeding, and Mohammed appeared to be instructing the others.

 

Al-Shibh, the only defendant in leg shackles, entered the courtroom with a defiant swagger, laughing at media members who were straining to get a look at him.

 

In addition to Mohammed and bin al-Shibh, the defendants are Walid bin Attash, who is said to have helped train the hijackers; and Mustafa al Hawsawi and Ali Abdul Aziz Ali, both of whom are accused of arranging financing for the plot.

 

Attash also told the judge he wanted to dismiss his legal team and represent himself.

 

Wearing a prison outfit and a foot-long gray beard, Mohammed appeared much thinner than when he was captured five years ago.

 

When he was addressed by Kohlmann, he started singing a prayer in Arabic and then repeated it in English.

 

The judge stopped him, saying, "I understand you have been held here for a long time and have some things to say."

 

Mohammed asked to continue what he was saying, noting that he understood he could not talk about torture or the Quran. Kohlmann allowed it, and Mohammed started to talk about wishing to represent himself.

 

Mohammed's lawyer interjected, saying his client did not understand the importance of the arraignment, and the judge explained to Mohammed that it would not be a good idea to represent himself.

 

Kohlmann announced at the start of the session that at least part of the detainees' statements would be classified and the judge would block out audio.

 

The defendants have been in U.S. government custody since 2002 and 2003, and they were transferred to the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay in September 2006. The charges against them include murder in violation of the law of war, various terrorism counts and intentionally causing bodily injury.

 

In a written statement read at a March 2007 hearing, at which he was present, Mohammed said he was responsible for the attacks "from A to Z."

 

Thursday's proceedings follow years of struggles by the Bush administration to craft a process for bringing the detainees to trial, and officials involved in the military commissions know that the eyes of the world will be on them. Learn how the tribunal will work »

 

Critics have called Guantanamo Bay a legal "black hole" for detainees who the United States says are not protected as prisoners of war under the Geneva Conventions.

 

The process has been roundly criticized by defense lawyers, who are fighting to keep hearsay statements and evidence obtained through coercive interrogation techniques from being used against their clients. For example, the U.S. government has admitted to using the simulated drowning technique known as waterboarding, long considered a form of torture, on Mohammed.

 

The American Civil Liberties Union, which has been monitoring the cases, said the verdicts won't be considered legitimate without constitutional guarantees for the accused.

 

"No matter who is representing these defendants, many of whom have been abused and tortured, there needs to be a process in place that adheres to the values of due process and the rule of law that are the foundations of American justice -- and this isn't it," Anthony Romero, the ACLU's executive director, said in a written statement.

 

Defense attorneys had asked for Thursday's proceedings to be delayed, arguing that they have not had enough time with their clients since the charges were announced in May.

 

Army Maj. Jon Jackson, al Hawsawi's lawyer, said that it's a good thing the cases are finally moving forward but that defense attorneys should have more time to discuss the cases with their clients.

 

"We, the defense, should have been granted a reasonable delay in order to develop a relationship with these men, to talk with them about their case, to discuss strategies before we are rushed into the courtroom," Jackson said before heading to Guantanamo Bay.

 

Kohlmann denied the delay request.

 

The actual charges against the men were only sworn against them May 9. And although prosecutors are pushing for a September trial, officials familiar with the process expect long delays and much legal fighting. They say a trial is probably at least many months away.

[Cunning Runt]

I say oblige the mother f-cker and put him down.

[Savage Beatings]

I agree that he should not be killed. Build a cell with no windows. He should have zero human contact for the rest of his life. Give him a meal each day or so to keep him alive. Give him a bucket to keep his waste in, and empty it out once a week or so. Have a hidden monitor built into the corner of his cell, and then post a live stream on the web for the world to be able to tune in and watch him sit there and rot.

[cre8tiff]

I say oblige the mother f-cker and put him down.

 

Naw, I think this is the right answer. Once he's gone, his memory will fade. Keeping him living just continues the propaganda.

[millerx]

Naw, I think this is the right answer. Once he's gone, his memory will fade. Keeping him living just continues the propaganda.

Agreed, but until then, Waterboard him 2-3 times a day, just for the f*ck of it. Tell him each time that his about to be a martyr, then recant at the end and tell him maybe tomorrow he will get his wish.

[Double Agent]

Muslims prohibit cremation. I say throw the POS in the furnace alive.

[dmarc117]

make bacon his last meal too

[twiley]

Every surviving family member of the victims of 911 should get to spend one day with him to do whatever they want. Talk to him, tell them how they feel, ask him why, maybe get to know him, beat him to a bloody pulp, dunk his head in a vat of acid, rip his fingernails off then pour alcohol on them, jab toothpicks into his eye, ram a hot poker up his pee hole, etc.

 

You get the picture.

[polksalet]

I would say give him daily dowsings of pig menstruations but some here would say I am cruel.

[Kid Cid]

Nope, I wouldn't kill him. Solitary 24/7. No clothes. Just enough food to survive. Every 3 months or so, give him a special meal laced with ground up glass. No need for exercise, he ain't going anywhere. Blast Black Sabbath and Frank Zappa at him until his ears bleed. Once every 3 years take him outside in the middle of the day for a second degree sunburn; this way he can keep himself amused popping the blisters for a month or so. Mess with his sense of time by turining the lights on and off for different amounts of time each day. Have the verses of the Koran printed on his toilet paper, then tie his dominant hand behind him so he has to eat and wipe with the same hand. Shine pictures of naked women into his cell, then beat him when he tries to masturbate. When he finally stops, beat him for not masturbating. Play sounds and music from home only when he deficates so he only associates home with taking a dump. Give him a Koran but make sure it is printed on paper that will break down in a couple of years. As it starts to disintegrate, yell at him for not taking care of it properly. Tell him his God deserted him and the Koran breaking up is proof. Never give him another one.

[Randall]

I say oblige the mother f-cker and put him down.

 

 

He'd like to be a martyr. On the other side the families would like an end to this. Let them decide.

 

For all of us I'd like to see a trial to find out what really happened. Who was involved, etc.

Edited June 6, 2008 by Randall

[twiley]

Nope, I wouldn't kill him. Solitary 24/7. No clothes. Just enough food to survive. Every 3 months or so, give him a special meal laced with ground up glass. No need for exercise, he ain't going anywhere. Blast Black Sabbath and Frank Zappa at him until his ears bleed. Once every 3 years take him outside in the middle of the day for a second degree sunburn; this way he can keep himself amused popping the blisters for a month or so. Mess with his sense of time by turining the lights on and off for different amounts of time each day. Have the verses of the Koran printed on his toilet paper, then tie his dominant hand behind him so he has to eat and wipe with the same hand. Shine pictures of naked women into his cell, then beat him when he tries to masturbate. When he finally stops, beat him for not masturbating. Play sounds and music from home only when he deficates so he only associates home with taking a dump. Give him a Koran but make sure it is printed on paper that will break down in a couple of years. As it starts to disintegrate, yell at him for not taking care of it properly. Tell him his God deserted him and the Koran breaking up is proof. Never give him another one.

That's beautiful.

[Savage Beatings]

He'd like to be a martyr. On the other side the families would like an end to this. Let them decide.

 

For all of us I'd like to see a trial to find out what really happened. Who was involved, etc.

 

I'm assuming that there would be evidence that would/could compromise national security if it were brought out in a public trial.

[Egret]

Why should we resort to tactics that we abhor from other cultures? The guy is a stain on the human race, but how should we treat the lowliest of people?

[Savage Beatings]

Why should we resort to tactics that we abhor from other cultures? The guy is a stain on the human race, but how should we treat the lowliest of people?

 

He should be given the 9th or 10th pick in a 16 team dynasty draft.

[millerx]

The guy is a stain on the human race, but how should we treat the lowliest of people?

I thought KID CID answered this already?

[millerx]

Nope, I wouldn't kill him. Solitary 24/7. No clothes. Just enough food to survive. Every 3 months or so, give him a special meal laced with ground up glass. No need for exercise, he ain't going anywhere. Blast Black Sabbath and Frank Zappa at him until his ears bleed. Once every 3 years take him outside in the middle of the day for a second degree sunburn; this way he can keep himself amused popping the blisters for a month or so. Mess with his sense of time by turining the lights on and off for different amounts of time each day. Have the verses of the Koran printed on his toilet paper, then tie his dominant hand behind him so he has to eat and wipe with the same hand. Shine pictures of naked women into his cell, then beat him when he tries to masturbate. When he finally stops, beat him for not masturbating. Play sounds and music from home only when he deficates so he only associates home with taking a dump. Give him a Koran but make sure it is printed on paper that will break down in a couple of years. As it starts to disintegrate, yell at him for not taking care of it properly. Tell him his God deserted him and the Koran breaking up is proof. Never give him another one.

I was already smiling when I came to this highlighted line... I then burst out in laughter!! Too funny! Classic!

[SF409ers]

What I think we should do: Put him to death in the most humane way possible and leave the rest up to God.

 

What I would like us to do: Give him what he wants and kill him but let him know that we are going to bury his ass face down, naked and with a pigs foot around his neck.

[H8tank]

He should just disappear, with no mention of this health or whereabouts... kinda like osama.

[untateve]

Why should we resort to tactics that we abhor from other cultures? The guy is a stain on the human race, but how should we treat the lowliest of people?

 

I :heart: Egret.

 

I still assert that when we set out for vengeance, we should be careful that we do not become that which we abhor. It would appear that I am in the minority.

[isleseeya]

I :heart: Egret.

 

I still assert that when we set out for vengeance, we should be careful that we do not become that which we abhor. It would appear that I am in a minority.

 

Your Black ???

[untateve]

Your Black ???

 

I didn't say I was a minority, I said I was in the minority. A subtle distinction. At least that's why my boo says.

[isleseeya]

I didn't say I was a minority, I said I was in the minority. A subtle distinction. At least that's why my boo says.

 

 

Your Gay ?

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

I :heart: Egret.

 

I still assert that when we set out for vengeance, we should be careful that we do not become that which we abhor. It would appear that I am in the minority.

 

You know deep down you'd love to cook up one of these islamofascists in your big green torture chamber.

[T_bone65]

He should be given the 9th or 10th pick in a 16 team dynasty draft.