Perchoutofwater Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 OUR SOCIAL SECURITY: Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn't know this. It's easy to check out, if you don't believe it. Be sure and show it to your kids. They need a little history lesson on what's what and it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts!!! Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the message was removed. An old Social Security card with the "NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION" message. Our Social Security Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised: 1.) That participation in the Program would be COMPLETELY voluntary, No longer Voluntary 2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes into the Program, Now 7.65% on the first $90,000 3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year, No longer tax deductible 4.) That the money the participants put into the independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore, would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and, Under Johnson the money was moved to the General Fund and Spent 5) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income Under Clinton & Gore, up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'put away' -- you may be interested in the following: ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---- Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it? A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically controlled House and Senate. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -- Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding? A: The Democratic Party. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities? A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the U.S. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments to immigrants? AND MY FAVORITE: A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party. Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments to them, even though they never paid a dime into it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Since SS is the Dems' project I guess they can do what they want to with it since the Republicans never wanted it in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) Who wants to bet Perch's chain email isn't completely accurate? Edited July 21, 2010 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 But, but, but . . it doesnt matter if you are Republican or Democrat! The first sentence says so!! Dont mind the following statements that staunchly support the Republicans and slam the Democrats! Nice chain mail Perch . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 But, but, but . . it doesnt matter if you are Republican or Democrat! The first sentence says so!! Dont mind the following statements that staunchly support the Republicans and slam the Democrats! Nice chain mail Perch . . . I would appreciate it if you would point out to me any part of it that is factually incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I would appreciate it if you would point out to me any part of it that is factually incorrect. it doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican This part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 This part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Snopes Some parts true, some parts false Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieFries Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Snopes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I would appreciate it if you would point out to me any part of it that is factually incorrect. So you're standing by it and stating it is accurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 So you're standing by it and stating it is accurate? Not at all, I just asked that he point out what was false. They guy that sent it to me typically does a fairly good job of fact checking things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 Ok, I'm embarrassed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 snoopes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Ok, I'm embarrassed now. You never seemed to be one that blindly believes and repeats right wing talking points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 snoopes Perch caught the vapors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I'll bet Eleanor Roosevelt could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Ok, I'm embarrassed now. Don't be....millions of right wingers spread propaganda every day, even though its inaccurate. Welcome to the herd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Ok, I'm embarrassed now. You are an intelligent man but you let blind hate cloud your judgment. A rational person would have run this through Snopes before rushing it out on to this forum. It's not like there was a race to get there first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Perch, I still believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayItAintSoJoe Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 You forgot to provide an answer for the biggest SS mystery of all: Why can't you laminate the damn card! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Perch, I still believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 You are an intelligent man but you let blind hate cloud your judgment. A rational person would have run this through Snopes before rushing it out on to this forum. It's not like there was a race to get there first. Nope, first time I've gotten something from this guy that wasn't 100% accurate. I checked the first few things he sent me, and frankly was lazy and due to everything he sent in the past checking out I didn't do the footwork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 My question is why Reagan allowed illegals to get SSI. You see how that works? He probably didn't want that to happen, but people can say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 My question is why Reagan allowed illegals to get SSI. You see how that works? He probably didn't want that to happen, but people can say that. Man, why do I respond to the Corky-troll? Anyway, I'd bet that was part of a treaty or something. IIRC (and this is all fuzzy - it's been a while) fedgov reciprocates with other countries. As a rule, we allow retired people from other countries to come suck our tit and other countries reciprocate. But again, that memory is fuzzy and I could be wrong as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Ok, I'm embarrassed now. For your benefit, I am going to take this as a blanket statement covering the past two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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