Gay marriage

[TheGrunt]

Slavery is to tradition, as a man/woman only marriage is to the past.

 

Did I do that right?

Taxpayer slavory?

[whomper]

Just Black Russians. So all you need to do is add milk. Then you're good.

 

 

:tipscap:

[CowboyGal2011]

I do still have issues with gay couples being able to adopt/raise children, but do also see how under certain circumstances that a gay couple may be better parents than some others out there...

 

'I am a girl': The plight of Tammy, the adopted son of two lesbians who started sex change aged 8 because he has always maintained he is a girl

[Sugar Magnolia]

'I am a girl': The plight of Tammy, the adopted son of two lesbians who started sex change aged 8 because he has always maintained he is a girl

 

Give me some data vs citing one article.

 

I grew up with two older brothers, plus my father who introduced me at a young age to playing sports and watching sports. I hated dolls and collected army men and match box cars. My only platonic friends until my early 20's were boys/guys. I found girls to be boring and emotional drama queens. I was the first girl in my town to enter a soap box derby, and play to little league. I played on my church men's basketball and softball teams This did not make me gay, or want to change my gender.

 

My cousin grew up with two sisters and played with dolls. She is gay.

 

Explain that one.

[Duchess Jack]

'I am a girl': The plight of Tammy, the adopted son of two lesbians who started sex change aged 8 because he has always maintained he is a girl

unless you can prove to me that this is common to gays who have kids, than it is a cheap cherry picking of a single situation (however weird it might be) that seems to be being used to represent the whole

[Chavez]

Coming up - CowboysGal starts calling people "libtard"

[WaterMan]

Can we cherry pick Timothy McVeigh too?

[Yukon Cornelius]

Can we cherry pick Timothy McVeigh too?

ist he a crazy mooslim

[mrip]

Are there any black people in Russia? seriously.

[Big John]

Are there any black people in Russia? seriously.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people#Eastern_Europe

 

As African states became independent in the 1960s, the Soviet Union offered many of their citizens the chance to study in Russia. Over a period of 40 years, about 400,000 African students from various countries moved to Russia to pursue higher studies, including many Black Africans.[94][95] This extended beyond the Soviet Union to many countries of the Eastern bloc.

 

 

or

 

black russian

[The Holy Roller]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people#Eastern_Europe

 

 

 

 

or

 

black russian

 

I'm thinking of getting the Big Lebowski on Netflix after reading this thread.

 

And do we have any gay Huddlers? I don't recall any one here saying so. The odds are that there are. If so how come they haven't come out defending gay marriage here?

[Big John]

And do we have any gay Huddlers? I don't recall any one here saying so. The odds are that there are. If so how come they haven't come out defending gay marriage here?

http://forums.thehuddle.com/index.php?s=&a...t&p=1941558

[Rovers]

The homosexual society has always asked, even begged for moral acceptance, and using the word "marriage" implies societal approval, which is what thei primary goal is. They will never have my approval. I think it's pretty sick stuff. Nor will I ever agree with them that their "alternate" lifestyle is in any way normal. This is an attempt to gain moral societal acceptance. The alternate lifestyle people even try to espouse how their lifestyle is BETTER than traditionally accepted marriages. I've seen this message imparted even in animated movies targeted at children.

 

On the other hand, I have no issue whatsoever with allowing same sex life partners the same benefits as a traditional heterosexual partnership. That exception would be discriminatory. They should have all the same rights and benefits of a traditional "marriage". The real battle here is that they whine about having it called a domestic partnership. They want it called marriage. It isn't, it can't be... because it can never be a "marriage". Give them the same legal rights, but not a moral one.

 

Where might it end? The Gay Pride parade in NYC allows for the "Man-boy Love Assoc" to march in their parade. We're talking molestation here, approving of child molestation. Shall we let adult male pervs marry young boys? OK, an extreme example of permissiveness, but one not rejected by gay rights activists at least in NYC.

 

This is their big sticking point, one I will not budge on. They can't be married. That is for a partnership that creates new life, and that is something same sex unions cannot produce. Give them all the societal benefits that hetero couples get, that's fine and within the confines of government. To call it a marriage is a societal issue, as some have mentioned, and not a governmental decision or judgement. It is a moral one, a moral one that the alt's have a lot of trouble coming to grips with. One long tenured book calls it an abomination. It is a judgement that I not only agree with, it's one I support and believe at it's very core.

Edited September 30, 2011 by Rovers

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

I've said it before and i'll say it again...marriage should be a strictly personal religious/spiritual/private thing. Keep the government out of it. Treat individuals as individuals. No separate treatment for couples over singles. Your religious beliefs and church don't support gay marriage? Fine. Those that do can simply embrace their own faith that does. Live and let live. An awful lot of supposedly godly people seem to forget they should leave the judging to Him. It is pretty ironic that two of the big things that gays are fighting for, marriage and enlistment in the military are both things conservatives claim to embrace.

[Duchess Jack]

I've said it before and i'll say it again...marriage should be a strictly personal religious/spiritual/private thing. Keep the government out of it.

 

game, set, match.

[tonorator]

what if three people wanted to get married? if man/woman doesn't matter, why should two vs. three consenting adults matter?

[The Holy Roller]

http://forums.thehuddle.com/index.php?s=&a...t&p=1941558

 

Hankk is our token gay? That's it? No way. There has to be some more gay Huddlers. Statistically.

 

Oh. And what Rovers said. +1.

Edited September 30, 2011 by The Holy Roller

[nuke'em ttg]

the ghey couples that aren't gettin along kinda cracks me up for some reason

i'm sure Slayer is a lezbo, has the traits

[detlef]

Here's a little something about the author of the proposed amendment.

[CowboyGal2011]

I've said it before and i'll say it again...marriage should be a strictly personal religious/spiritual/private thing. Keep the government out of it. Treat individuals as individuals.

 

Why do cities provide parks and libraries for their citizens?

[bpwallace49]

Why do cities provide parks and libraries for their citizens?

 

So that ghey dudes like h8tank have a place to engage in public ghey sex?

 

 

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

what if three people wanted to get married? if man/woman doesn't matter, why should two vs. three consenting adults matter?

it shouldn't but you know that.

[Delicious_bass]

This is their big sticking point, one I will not budge on. They can't be married. That is for a partnership that creates new life, and that is something same sex unions cannot produce. Give them all the societal benefits that hetero couples get, that's fine and within the confines of government. To call it a marriage is a societal issue, as some have mentioned, and not a governmental decision or judgement. It is a moral one, a moral one that the alt's have a lot of trouble coming to grips with. One long tenured book calls it an abomination. It is a judgement that I not only agree with, it's one I support and believe at it's very core.

Not all hetero marriages create new life. Is there something wrong with those marriages? Should hetero people who either cant (or choose not to) have children be prohibited from being married?

 

I get where you're coming from, Rovers, but you have to admit that heteros have made such a mockery of marriage over the years that gays would be hard-pressed to outdo it, no?

 

And that long tenured book was written by man. Man is proven to be flawed, no?

 

I've said it before and i'll say it again...marriage should be a strictly personal religious/spiritual/private thing. Keep the government out of it. Treat individuals as individuals. No separate treatment for couples over singles. Your religious beliefs and church don't support gay marriage? Fine. Those that do can simply embrace their own faith that does. Live and let live. An awful lot of supposedly godly people seem to forget they should leave the judging to Him. It is pretty ironic that two of the big things that gays are fighting for, marriage and enlistment in the military are both things conservatives claim to embrace.

Good post

 

So that ghey dudes like h8tank have a place to engage in public ghey sex?

 

 

 

Edited September 30, 2011 by Delicious_bass

[detlef]

The homosexual society has always asked, even begged for moral acceptance, and using the word "marriage" implies societal approval, which is what thei primary goal is. They will never have my approval. I think it's pretty sick stuff. Nor will I ever agree with them that their "alternate" lifestyle is in any way normal. This is an attempt to gain moral societal acceptance. The alternate lifestyle people even try to espouse how their lifestyle is BETTER than traditionally accepted marriages. I've seen this message imparted even in animated movies targeted at children.

 

On the other hand, I have no issue whatsoever with allowing same sex life partners the same benefits as a traditional heterosexual partnership. That exception would be discriminatory. They should have all the same rights and benefits of a traditional "marriage". The real battle here is that they whine about having it called a domestic partnership. They want it called marriage. It isn't, it can't be... because it can never be a "marriage". Give them the same legal rights, but not a moral one.

 

Where might it end? The Gay Pride parade in NYC allows for the "Man-boy Love Assoc" to march in their parade. We're talking molestation here, approving of child molestation. Shall we let adult male pervs marry young boys? OK, an extreme example of permissiveness, but one not rejected by gay rights activists at least in NYC.

 

This is their big sticking point, one I will not budge on. They can't be married. That is for a partnership that creates new life, and that is something same sex unions cannot produce. Give them all the societal benefits that hetero couples get, that's fine and within the confines of government. To call it a marriage is a societal issue, as some have mentioned, and not a governmental decision or judgement. It is a moral one, a moral one that the alt's have a lot of trouble coming to grips with. One long tenured book calls it an abomination. It is a judgement that I not only agree with, it's one I support and believe at it's very core.

Among the litany of bad info and untruths in your post that I will address first is making sure you understand what is actually on the ballot. Both marriage and civil unions are currently illegal in NC. What is being proposed is that the law become an amendment, and thus, harder to change down the road. There is no outcome in May's election that results in Gays being allowed to marry or even enjoy civil union status. So, in NC, along with all but about 10 states, gays are not even given the rights that you mention above. So, before they can have the luxury of "whining" about what we call it, the vast majority have to actually get those rights under another name. My guess is that, as much as they'd love to be recognized under the same name, they'd first like to actually enjoy the same rights.

 

This is an important point because I hear the, "Why can't they just be happy with getting the same rights?" As if they already have them.

 

Understand the slippery slope that you guys keep going back to, as if it will never be enough. Don't we have to show them the courtesy of taking our collective boot off their necks and letting them off the mat before we start making wild guesses at what they might do once they get up? It's a classic church tactic, the best defense is a good offense. Claim, the only way to protect your way of life for yourselves, is to force it down everyone's throats.

 

Two) Curious about your NAMBLA reference, I looked it up. First off they don't march with Gay Pride. It appears that they used to, very briefly. To the disgust, I might add, of nearly every gay organization out there. In fact, it seems that prominent gay rights advocates who have sided with NAMBLA have been forced out of any credible gay rights group. see: Relationships with LGBT Associations.

 

Gotta say, it would be nice if the Catholic church took as hard a line against pedophiles associated with the church as gay groups have taken with NAMBLA. Instead, they hide behind the cloth and claim persecution.

 

Like I, and others, have said. I just wish governments would get out of the marriage game entirely. You and your church could decide what is and isn't a marriage, and so can I. See, I actually believe in your rights to be as exclusionary as you want, provided you don't make me be so as well. So, go ahead. Tack a sign on your church door that says, "No gays allowed". The second someone attacks your right to do so, I'll be as much on your side as I currently am on the side of the gays right now.

 

You think homosexuality is an abomination. I think using a word that should define a bond of love and commitment as a divisive political tool is.

Edited September 30, 2011 by detlef

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

what if three people wanted to get married? if man/woman doesn't matter, why should two vs. three consenting adults matter?

 

If they are truly consenting adults, why should I care. Now if you are talking Warren Jeffs style get em while they are young and force them into polygamy then hell no.