Grits and Shins Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Until a team plays a perfect game where they make no mistakes, have no penalties, score a TD on every offense drive, prevent their opponent from scoring any points, never punt the ball ... etc etc. Then I have a hard time saying that ref.s are "impacting the game". I suspect the replacement refs aren't "impacting the game" any more than the regular ref.s would have. Edited September 9, 2012 by Grits and Shins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thews40 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Until a team plays a perfect game where they make no mistakes, have no penalties, score a TD on every offense drive, prevent their opponent from scoring any points, never punt the ball ... etc etc. Then I have a hard time saying that ref.s are "impacting the game". I suspect the replacement refs aren't "impacting the game" any more than the regular ref.s would have. Â BS. When you overturn a block in the back flag you better have a damn good reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I hope this isn't a "replacement ref" thread, 'cause ref mistakes are NOT exclusive to replacements. Â Â Â You can't be serious. I've seen some of the worst officiating in my life today. And this is week 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Pretty soon we'll see all the GB WR's roll around like they are playing soccer in order to get calls. Â Â +1 I wish they would flag the Green Bay receivers for being sissies. The play doesn't even start and they're calling for a PI flag. :oldrolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Just like the other refs, I think some crews are better / worse than others...this crew at the gb / SF game is shady ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhyatt Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 At least that non-call didn't cost the 49ers the win. I think I will say these replacement refs suck. Now I'm watching the end of the Cardinals-Seahawks game and the refs obviously don't know what they're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 BS. When you overturn a block in the back flag you better have a damn good reason. Â Â There are 60 minutes in a football ... I don't believe that a single blown call, or for that matter several blown calls are the 2 or 3 plays in the game that determine the outcome of the whole game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 So do the NFL and NFLRA come to an agreement quickly now and have the regulars out next week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 So do the NFL and NFLRA come to an agreement quickly now and have the regulars out next week? Â Â I think the NFL is happy with how the games are being officiated and for the most part don't believe there is a significant difference in how the games are called. Now way does the NFL back down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I think the NFL is happy with how the games are being officiated and for the most part don't believe there is a significant difference in how the games are called. Now way does the NFL back down. Â Â This is crazy, IMO. Today was an embarrassment for the league. The refs just acquired some bargaining power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skhyatt Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Doubt they back down, but I'm guessing there will be a lot of "letters", complaining about the officiating this week from coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 This is crazy, IMO. Today was an embarrassment for the league. The refs just acquired some bargaining power. Â Â I think you may be embarrassed for the NFL but I don't believe NFL was embarrassed at all. In fact IF they think that the performance of the replacement refs was sub-par I suspect they don't believe it was a significant difference AND believe that with time/experience the replacements will close the gap. The NFL is not going to back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 This is crazy, IMO. Today was an embarrassment for the league. The refs just acquired some bargaining power. Â And the players union may take action: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/09/nflpa-threatens-appropriate-action-over-replacement-officials/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 And the players union may take action: http://profootballta...ment-officials/ Â Â That whole "utilizing replacement officials jeopardizes the health and safety of our members" is inane. Somebody tell what it exactly that the refs are doing to "protect" the players from getting hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I think you may be embarrassed for the NFL but I don't believe NFL was embarrassed at all. In fact IF they think that the performance of the replacement refs was sub-par I suspect they don't believe it was a significant difference AND believe that with time/experience the replacements will close the gap. The NFL is not going to back down. Â Â This is the crazy part to me. They may not admit it, but they KNOW there was a big difference. Let's set aside judgement calls, there were several examples of getting the rules wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 I thought the replacement refs were fine in all of the coverage I have seen. Sure, they have missed some stuff. So do the regular crews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 This is the crazy part to me. They may not admit it, but they KNOW there was a big difference. Let's set aside judgement calls, there were several examples of getting the rules wrong. Â Â The regular refs make mistakes all the time ... we gripe about them every year. I'm not sure I believe that the regular refs make any fewer mistakes ... everybody and their mother is LOOKING for mistakes made by the replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 The regular refs make mistakes all the time ... we gripe about them every year. I'm not sure I believe that the regular refs make any fewer mistakes ... everybody and their mother is LOOKING for mistakes made by the replacements. Â Â No question about that! Â It would be interesting to poll the coaches and see what they think. The NFL would never allow that (or let it become public at least) but I have to believe the coaches will exert significant pressure on the league to get this settled. What I will say is that the longer it goes on, the better these refs will get and the smaller and smaller the difference between the regulars and replacements will be. The longer the league holds out and refuses to cave, the greater the chance that they will never settle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REZ Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 The longer the regular refs are out, the better the replacement refs will get until you won't be able to tell the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Couch Potatoe Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 (edited) There are 60 minutes in a football ... I don't believe that a single blown call, or for that matter several blown calls are the 2 or 3 plays in the game that determine the outcome of the whole game. Â As I do agree with this a missed call or bad call here or there is an exception cause there human and usually won't impact outcome. The overturn of a flag on a blatant clip definitely could have changed the outcome of the niners game today. That was a complete wishy washy all in all bad overturn on their part and it changed the game completely as it allowed the Packers who were going nowhere on offense right back in the game that they were never in up to that point. Â So this is one case that sticks out in my mind big time that did change the game and could have changed the outcome of the game all on it's own. Just my Edited September 10, 2012 by Sunday Couch Potatoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 There were a couple of instances where the refs straight up didn't know the rules. Or at least how to make a ruling. I can live with crappy calls I guess but they at least need to know the rules IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 As I do agree with this a missed call or bad call here or there is an exception cause there human and usually won't impact outcome. The overturn of a flag on a blatant clip definitely could have changed the outcome of the niners game today. That was a complete wishy washy all in all bad overturn on their part and it changed the game completely as it allowed the Packers who were going nowhere on offense right back in the game that they were never in up to that point.  So this is one case that sticks out in my mind big time that did change the game and could have changed the outcome of the game all on it's own. Just my   So you are saying when the ref.s blow a call ... the team who suffers should just quit then? I mean if the game hinges on a bad call and the ball call goes against you then the game is over ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Regardless of how bad we may perceive the officiating, I think it is crucial for the players and coaches that they stick with the replacements or get the regular officials back ASAP. It is unfair for the players/coaches to play the game with these guys and then have the regulars come in and say...HOLD ON GUYS, we have to show you whats been so messed up. It could seriously affect players and coaches. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh2 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 The confusion in the SEA/AZ was incredible at the end for the final SEA time out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh2 Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Bad call in the DEN/PIT game, PIT gets timeout after clock reaches ZERO. Shoould been delay of game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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