stevegrab Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, Big John said: Joe Berry finally fired. Packers DC for those who may not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, stevegrab said: Packers DC for those who may not know. Weren't they playing better down the stretch? Or maybe it wasn't because of Berry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeljordan ca Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Eagle fans rejoice! https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39385210/vic-fangio-become-eagles-defensive-coordinator-source-says and it sounds like Belichick gets passed over.. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39387677/what-raheem-morris-return-atlanta-means-falcons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Only two jobs left open, WAS & SEA Along with Raheem Morris for ATL, CAR hired TB OC Dave Canales as their new HC. Canales was TB OC for one season, helping turn Baker Mayfield around after spending many years in SEA, the last one helping Geno Smith become a legit starter. Maybe he can help Bryce Young. Maybe BB doesn't want to coach anymore, or maybe he is too demanding in what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 The other story I am reading that I didn't see mentioned is that the Falcons have removed Rich McKay from his role with the team. That came later Thursday after announcing they hired Morris. The story says that both GM Fontenot and HC Smith reported to McKay who then reported to Blank. Apparently this McKay's role was not made public, saying he wasn't involved in day-to-day operations then learning he spoke with GM/HC two dozen times a week. Story mentions how it impacted their coaching search, and could have been a big they were unable to get Belichick. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/falcons-shake-up-organizational-structure-rich-mckay-out/ar-BB1hhcnz?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=152dd760799b4741aafbe4c667ad87df&ei=24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 32 minutes ago, stevegrab said: The other story I am reading that I didn't see mentioned is that the Falcons have removed Rich McKay from his role with the team. That came later Thursday after announcing they hired Morris. The story says that both GM Fontenot and HC Smith reported to McKay who then reported to Blank. Apparently this McKay's role was not made public, saying he wasn't involved in day-to-day operations then learning he spoke with GM/HC two dozen times a week. Story mentions how it impacted their coaching search, and could have been a big they were unable to get Belichick. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/falcons-shake-up-organizational-structure-rich-mckay-out/ar-BB1hhcnz?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=152dd760799b4741aafbe4c667ad87df&ei=24 McKay was basically their President of football operations, much like Dennis Lauscha with the Saints organization. Some owners like Blank and Mrs Benson take a more hands-off approach to managing the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, rajncajn said: McKay was basically their President of football operations, much like Dennis Lauscha with the Saints organization. Some owners like Blank and Mrs Benson take a more hands-off approach to managing the team. Curious if you read the article? A big part of the story is how Blank said McKay was not involved in day to day operations, but that was found to be false. Misleading your fans about the organizational structure isn't usually good. The author also talks about how Blank is very hands on and involved in decision making. Maybe he's way off base, I know you're closer to that region and the team is your division so maybe you've followed it more closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, stevegrab said: Curious if you read the article? A big part of the story is how Blank said McKay was not involved in day to day operations, but that was found to be false. Misleading your fans about the organizational structure isn't usually good. The author also talks about how Blank is very hands on and involved in decision making. Maybe he's way off base, I know you're closer to that region and the team is your division so maybe you've followed it more closely. The Falcons own press release said that Blank and McKay would be choosing the head coach, so I'm not sure why this article is saying McKay wasn't involved in football. I'm pretty certain McKay hired Fonteneau as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/26/2024 at 5:50 PM, rajncajn said: The Falcons own press release said that Blank and McKay would be choosing the head coach, so I'm not sure why this article is saying McKay wasn't involved in football. I'm pretty certain McKay hired Fonteneau as well. Okay first off it was a simple question did you read the article yes or no cuz it still sounds like you didn't. Team press releases are written by PR experts to give the best spin. I'm pretty sure the reporter who wrote the article is saying that in the past prior to now that Falcons said he wasn't involved in day-to-day operations and he certainly was. From what I gather he covers Atlanta sports. Maybe he knows stuff. Maybe he has an axe to grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I hate when Rajn argues without full context and perspective. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 hours ago, stevegrab said: Okay first off it was a simple question did you read the article yes or no cuz it still sounds like you didn't. Team press releases are written by PR experts to give the best spin. I'm pretty sure the reporter who wrote the article is saying that in the past prior to now that Falcons said he wasn't involved in day-to-day operations and he certainly was. From what I gather he covers Atlanta sports. Maybe he knows stuff. Maybe he has an axe to grind. What exactly are you trying to argue about? I was responding to your post, not the article. I wasn't disagreeing with you. Just pointing at the obvious contradiction between the press release I referred to, historical context and what the article is talking about. Here is what you said that I was responding to: On 1/26/2024 at 8:52 AM, stevegrab said: Apparently this McKay's role was not made public, saying he wasn't involved in day-to-day operations then learning he spoke with GM/HC two dozen times a week. Story mentions how it impacted their coaching search, and could have been a big they were unable to get Belichick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, gilthorp said: I hate when Rajn argues without full context and perspective. I hate when people say I'm arguing when I'm not. Edited January 28 by rajncajn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) From the article: "Only recently were we made aware of exactly what he was doing. Arthur Smith and Terry Fontenot reported to McKay during their three-year stretch, and the Falcons CEO would then report to the owner on matters. What’s even worse is Falcons fans were misled about McKay’s role. We were led to believe that he wasn’t involved in day-to-day operations, only to find out during a press conference following Smith’s termination that McKay spoke with the head coach and GM more than two dozen times per week. I don’t know why Falcons fans should believe Blank now." And what I am saying is that I didn't think that it was any secret that McKay was involved in football operations. That's not an argument, just an observation saying that part of the article didn't make sense to me. Edited January 28 by rajncajn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I don't like to argue. But I do love to disagree with people and post diverging opinions. I'll even frequently try to change the dialogue to find something to disagree about . I hate arguing though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) Arguing that you are not Arguing? Edited January 28 by Big John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, Big John said: Arguing that you are not Arguing? No. That is not what I said at all. 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, rajncajn said: I hate when people say I'm arguing when I'm not. Poor guy. You must not have any self realization of what you are actually doing. Dense is very dense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 16 hours ago, rajncajn said: From the article: "Only recently were we made aware of exactly what he was doing. Arthur Smith and Terry Fontenot reported to McKay during their three-year stretch, and the Falcons CEO would then report to the owner on matters. What’s even worse is Falcons fans were misled about McKay’s role. We were led to believe that he wasn’t involved in day-to-day operations, only to find out during a press conference following Smith’s termination that McKay spoke with the head coach and GM more than two dozen times per week. I don’t know why Falcons fans should believe Blank now." And what I am saying is that I didn't think that it was any secret that McKay was involved in football operations. That's not an argument, just an observation saying that part of the article didn't make sense to me. Most of that should have been in your original response, because it would make it clear you read the story and that it is simply YOUR OPINION that the reporter's claim that fans were misled regarding McKay's role with the team is false. He follows ATL sports, I figure he knows this stuff. Then you chimed in with "but this press release from the team recently makes it clear he is involved with this stuff". The bolded would been a much better response than what you originally made, because it is very clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, stevegrab said: Most of that should have been in your original response, because it would make it clear you read the story and that it is simply YOUR OPINION that the reporter's claim that fans were misled regarding McKay's role with the team is false. He follows ATL sports, I figure he knows this stuff. Then you chimed in with "but this press release from the team recently makes it clear he is involved with this stuff". The bolded would been a much better response than what you originally made, because it is very clear. Sorry I was vague. I thought it was obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 1/24/2024 at 8:36 AM, stevegrab said: Packers DC for those who may not know. Lafleur apparently hires his close friend Hafley, HC of Boston College, to be the new DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeljordan ca Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 The Seahawks have found their guy.. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39429973/sources-seahawks-hire-ravens-dc-mike-macdonald-coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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michaeljordan ca Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Apologies... just your basic moron over here... lol 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, Big John said: Lafleur apparently hires his close friend Hafley, HC of Boston College, to be the new DC. Looks like he will switch to a 4-3 defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Washington to hire Dan Quinn as HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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