alchico Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Saw this on the homepage of one of my MFL leagues (FFChamps) InsideSTL.com is reporting that the St. Louis Rams are attempting to trade wide receiver Torry Holt, especially after he publicly came out against the benching of quarterback Marc Bulger. Analysis: Word ishead coach Scott Linehan and Holt literally hateeach other, and the Rams may even release Holt if they cannot trade him. Owners can only hope that he gets outta Dodge and moves onto greener pastures. The 49ers, Raiders, Bears, Dolphins, Ravens, Titans, and Browns would all be potential suitors. (Article Link) MFL LINK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Send Holt AND Bulger to Minnesota please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip_Side Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 He is welcome in Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satelliteoflovegm Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Anything short of Mars would be greener pastures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfden1 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Anything short of Mars would be greener pastures. Leave the Raiders out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Leave the Raiders out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Please make a move Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Holt is not the Holt of old because of his knees but this is just ridiculous. Bulger fallout continuesBy Jim Thomas ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH 09/27/2008 If quarterback Marc Bulger has decided he no longer can play for Scott Linehan, he has not informed the Rams' coach. So said Linehan on Friday, another tumultuous day at Rams Park. "He's never given me any (such) indication," Linehan told reporters. "I know he's disappointed with my decision. He's practiced very well this week, and worked hard, and all those things. If that's his feeling, he's never mentioned that to me. You have to ask him that particular question." For the fourth day in a row, Bulger ducked reporters at Rams Park. The two-time Pro Bowler has yet to comment publicly about being benched by Linehan for Sunday's game against Buffalo. (Trent Green starts instead at quarterback.) Team sources told the Post-Dispatch on Thursday afternoon that Bulger was so upset over his benching that he no longer wanted to play for Linehan. Steven Jackson strongly implied the same thing Thursday evening on his "Rolling the Dice" radio show. Jackson also criticized Linehan's decision to bench Bulger. "I don't think it's far-fetched that if things don't work out (with Green), you've lost Bulger," Jackson said on his radio show. "We've only played three games and it hasn't been pretty at all. But you've just awarded this man a new contract worth ... millions of dollars and you bench him. ... "I just don't like it at all. There are more people that can take the blame for this. I don't think it's fair that one person takes the blame. You don't put your head guy, the general, the staple center, and you bench him with no excuse. It's not right." When asked Friday if he had discussed Jackson's radio comments with Jackson, Linehan replied: "I haven't talked to him about it, but I will. ... We're in this together and we're trying to find solutions to what has not been a good start to the season with our record." Linehan then defended his decision to bench Bulger. "To sit here and not make some decisions — which are hard decisions as a head coach — I would not be doing my job," Linehan said. "But I will, at some point here soon, talk to Steven about it. But other than that, I have no comment further." As a follow-up, Linehan was asked if he would voice his displeasure to Jackson about Jackson publicly second-guessing the Bulger benching. Linehan wouldn't nibble. "When I talk to Steven, and what I say to Steven, will be between me and Steven," Linehan said. Linehan met with reporters much later than scheduled on a bizarre Friday afternoon. By all accounts, he left the field in a huff after practice before reporters were assembled outdoors. Linehan is the first coach in "St. Louis" Rams history to permanently close practices to the media. Only the first 20 to 30 minutes are open to the press. After that time period expires, the media is escorted off the field and must wait in the media workroom until summoned for Linehan's post-practice news conference. Nearly two hours passed between the end of practice Friday and Linehan's remarks to the press. Depending on who you talked to, the delay was a result of Linehan either 1.) Meeting with president of football operations Jay Zygmunt; 2.) Getting treatment for a shoulder problem; 3.) Yelling at radio officials for Jackson's radio comments; or 4.) Some combination of the above. During the locker room interview period Friday at Rams Park, Jackson declined to speak to reporters. Bulger was nowhere to be found. Some Rams players were unaware of Jackson's radio comments. Wide receiver Torry Holt said he was beyond surprised at Bulger's benching. "You know I was shocked, man," Holt said. "I was really shocked. First and foremost, I went up to Marc immediately and apologized to him as a receiver. And (apologized) for our receiving group, and for our offense — for not making enough plays to give him an opportunity to stay on the football field with us as we move forward in the fourth week." Jackson also said on the radio that he wasn't the only player in the locker room who thought benching Bulger was the wrong decision. When asked if he felt that way about Bulger's benching, Holt said, "I'll keep those thoughts to myself, and just go ahead and move forward with what we've got." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Jackson blasts QB benching September 21, 2008 - ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH 09/26/2008 The vibe in the Rams locker room Wednesday and Thursday was that several Rams players weren't happy about the benching of Marc Bulger. But no one would say so publicly. Well, outspoken running back Steven Jackson took care of that Thursday night on his "Rolling the Dice" radio show on KLOU (103.3 FM). Jackson said benching Bulger was the "wrong decision." "He's our general," said Jackson, who then pointed out that you don't pay someone "$60-something million" and then sit him on the bench. (Bulger was signed to a $65 million contract extension prior to the 2007 season.) Although he harbors no ill will against Trent Green, who replaces Bulger in the starting lineup Sunday against Buffalo, Jackson wondered aloud about what will happen when it's time for Bulger to return to the starting lineup? Jackson intimated strongly that Bulger would be unwilling to do so. Team sources did in fact tell the Post-Dispatch on Thursday that Bulger no longer wants to play for coach Scott Linehan. Bulger has declined comment for three consecutive days since his benching became public knowledge. When asked by the radio show's host, Malcolm Briggs, if there were other Rams players who were against the benching, Jackson paused and replied, "I'm not the only one who feels this way." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I don't find anything about Holt being traded or released... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 train wreck. sounds like linehan wants to get fired while he can still get some good golf in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 This whole freakin' soap opera would be amusing if it weren't so sad. Bryan Burwell of the Post had another scathing column here: Burwell's Column It basically calls out the coaching staff, Jay Zigmunt, and the owners to step up and do what the Lion organization finally had the stones to do. Also remember Holt and Linehan had a very public shouting match on the sidelines last year, so they are not friendly. When asked on local TV last night about the situation with Bulger Holt said "I have no problem with coach, he's the boss and like any job, you do what the boss says. It doesn't matter whether I agree with him." It's gonna be real interesting at the game tomorrow. Will Green get cheers (he's a local boy and is beloved here), or will he get booed by those that disagree with the benching of Bulger? My money is on loud cheers (that's what he'll get from me.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Saw this on the homepage of one of my MFL leagues (FFChamps) InsideSTL.com is reporting that the St. Louis Rams are attempting to trade wide receiver Torry Holt, especially after he publicly came out against the benching of quarterback Marc Bulger. Analysis: Word ishead coach Scott Linehan and Holt literally hateeach other, and the Rams may even release Holt if they cannot trade him. Owners can only hope that he gets outta Dodge and moves onto greener pastures. The 49ers, Raiders, Bears, Dolphins, Ravens, Titans, and Browns would all be potential suitors. (Article Link) MFL LINK How about to Philly for Sheppard? Makes sense for both teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I don't find anything about Holt being traded or released... This is what Alchico was referring to. InsideSTL.com is reporting that the St. Louis Rams are attempting to trade wide receiver Torry Holt, especially after he publicly came out against the benching of quarterback Marc Bulger. Analysis: Word ishead coach Scott Linehan and Holt literally hateeach other, and the Rams may even release Holt if they cannot trade him. Owners can only hope that he gets outta Dodge and moves onto greener pastures. The 49ers, Raiders, Bears, Dolphins, Ravens, Titans, and Browns would all be potential suitors. But this is the closest thing I could find... On Wednesday, the first media availability since Monday, the Rams released cornerback Fakhir Brown amid rumblings that Zygmunt was behind the move. The next day, Jackson dropped his bombs on the radio and rumors surfaced that wide receiver Torry Holt might be the next to go. Through it all, Bulger refused to face the media. The ship has already sunk, but can the Rams really afford to trade the face of the franchise for nearly ten years away right now? It's not like the front office and coaching staff have that high of an approval rating at this point... Does anyone remember rumors about this many big name guys potentially being moved during the season? Roy Williams, Torry Holt, and Tony Gonzalez have all made the news over the past week or two, with Gonzo actually being the one to mouth the words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Holt wants out, Bulger benched and SJax is unhappy. All 3 are big time players and as far as i know Holt and Bulger have always been "Class Act" guys. I thnk the problem is in the Front Office and Coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I think the problem is in the Front Office and Coach. Ya think? This is one of the worst front office and head coach combinations in the league. Would be the worst if King Carl/Herm and whatever the Raiders are calling themselves these days were not around... Not saying those two are worse, just saying they're all equally dog fart as far as front office/HC goes. I would say Linehan is the worst coach in the NFL... Lane Kiffin really doesn't have a shot, but his running game is solid. Herm knows what he wants to do but his plan is flawed where as Linehan I don't think even has a plan. He seems completely lost with no sense of direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Here's the article but I don't see any reference to Holt being traded. I've combed through all of the other local sources and everything I'm coming across is all speculation and heresay. insideSTL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 there is no way they will just release him...like DMD said he isnt the Holt of old....but imo, he stays a ram or gets traded but doesnt get released...no F'n way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 there is no way they will just release him...like DMD said he isnt the Holt of old....but imo, he stays a ram or gets traded but doesnt get released...no F'n way Then again, it is the rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Stage a football catching contest. The loser gets released. I'll bet it's Linehan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalking_Eagle Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Based on Fantasy performace I would vote to move him to a great passing team. The fart bubbles might be able to move up in the rainkings then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 How about to Philly for Sheppard? Makes sense for both teams. throw in Reggie Brown too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 This is BS. If it were true, that would mean the owner prefers the currently cratering Linehan over their Pro Bowl WR who is arguably the public face of the franchise. It's clear Linehan is gone before too long, why would they get rid of Holt during that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Stage a football coaching contest. The loser gets released. I'll bet it's Linehan. fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Please make a move Dallas you greedy bastage! oh wait, I'm a Boyz fan and that would be absolutely fabulous!! TO, Holt, Witten, Baber, Romo!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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