Big John Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, stevegrab said: No doubt Emmitt is way better than Bell, don't recall him ever missing games being suspended etc. He missed the first 2 games in 1993 over a contract holdout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 hours ago, DMD said: That was different. He was the best RB of all time. So, he deserved more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, DMD said: That was different. He was the best RB of all time. So, he deserved more. 22 minutes ago, Shaman said: No he was not the best of all time, at that time. Emmitt Smith held out 2 times in hist first 4 years of professional football. Some of you are smoking that "homer crack." He did a rookie holdout and 3 years later did another holdout, but Dallas eventually paid him. That was unprecedented at that time. Edited October 3, 2018 by Shaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Nobody around here appreciates a good fishing expedition anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 11 hours ago, Def. said: Think your homer is showing. Why would you think that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 6 hours ago, DMD said: Why would you think that? Well played sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 On 10/3/2018 at 4:32 AM, DMD said: Why would you think that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 On 10/2/2018 at 8:36 PM, Shaft said: No he was not the best of all time, at that time. Emmitt Smith held out 2 times in hist first 4 years of professional football. Some of you are smoking that "homer crack." He did a rookie holdout and 3 years later did another holdout, but Dallas eventually paid him. That was unprecedented at that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesplante11 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1051465479922077696?s=20 Bell still hasn’t let Pittsburgh know his plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 11:29 AM, jamesplante11 said: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1051465479922077696?s=20 Bell still hasn’t let Pittsburgh know his plan Endearing yourself to your teammates, and teams that might be interested in your skills..... I loved the little jab that Tomlin took at him during his press conference yesterday. Something about James (Conner) being benched next week when Bell returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, stevegrab said: Endearing yourself to your teammates, and teams that might be interested in your skills..... I loved the little jab that Tomlin took at him during his press conference yesterday. Something about James (Conner) being benched next week when Bell returns. Didn't Big Ben make a similar comment? Something about being pleased with how Conner performed in his last game. I'm assuming it was sarcasm, but it could also be viewed as a jab against Bell, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 I am guessing he isn't coming back until week 7 weekend. Question is about whether Steelers really care one way or another? Connor has shown is just as capable without him. And no, I am not comparing the two. It's more about his production since arrival. Or is the Steelers still shopping around since they probably have a good idea of what Connor can bring to the table vs having to pay Bell after the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I have to wonder if he has damaged his "brand"? I understand why he held out. I understand why he holds himself in high regard. But how does the noncommunication play out among future employers? It's like he wants to create animosity IMO. Unless he has been in contact with PIT all along but I seriously think he's said nothing to them. He will want a huge deal next year in FA - can he get it? He is only 26 and should have 3 to 5 more years barring injury. I am fascinated in how this plays out. But I cannot see how he handled this not having some impact on his value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 42 minutes ago, DMD said: I have to wonder if he has damaged his "brand"? I understand why he held out. I understand why he holds himself in high regard. But how does the noncommunication play out among future employers? It's like he wants to create animosity IMO. Unless he has been in contact with PIT all along but I seriously think he's said nothing to them. He will want a huge deal next year in FA - can he get it? He is only 26 and should have 3 to 5 more years barring injury. I am fascinated in how this plays out. But I cannot see how he handled this not having some impact on his value. Very well stated, I agree 100%. There's not a GM on the planet who's not judging his character right now, I don't care how good he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 The easy response is “pay the guy and he will show up and do his job”. Several GMs will take the risk because winning is a panacea, and most of them are clueless as to how to accomplish this. They know that talent helps, though, and he has that. I left Conner on my DTS to see hiw this playes out. I think it will end up being a decent move, becaue he will get a much longer deal next season than I would have given this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indyrckstar Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 hours ago, DMD said: I have to wonder if he has damaged his "brand"? I understand why he held out. I understand why he holds himself in high regard. But how does the noncommunication play out among future employers? It's like he wants to create animosity IMO. Unless he has been in contact with PIT all along but I seriously think he's said nothing to them. He will want a huge deal next year in FA - can he get it? He is only 26 and should have 3 to 5 more years barring injury. I am fascinated in how this plays out. But I cannot see how he handled this not having some impact on his value. IMO, somebody will pay him a large chunk of money. His strategy of not playing for a half of season or longer will be looked upon as protecting the body of being worn down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, Caveman_Nick said: The easy response is “pay the guy and he will show up and do his job”. Several GMs will take the risk because winning is a panacea, and most of them are clueless as to how to accomplish this. They know that talent helps, though, and he has that. I left Conner on my DTS to see hiw this playes out. I think it will end up being a decent move, becaue he will get a much longer deal next season than I would have given this year. The OBJ situation in NY won't help that argument. Remember how a new contract was supposed make everything perfect? How is that working out for NY? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 So far statistically after 6 games Conner is out playing Bells last 2 years stats in every category... is it possible that maybe... just maybe, gms are going to see that bell isn't THAT special and that perhaps it is in fact what I've believed all along which is the oline and offense as a whole made Bell and Not the other way around. We saw it with Dwill, NOW we see it with Conner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soopanuts Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Hard to argue that Conner can continue to succeed. Will be interesting to see how this plays out, but I could see PIT riding Bell to save mileage on Conner. Conner has two more years left on his rookie deal. That is if they don't trade Bell first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 17 hours ago, DMD said: I have to wonder if he has damaged his "brand"? I understand why he held out. I understand why he holds himself in high regard. But how does the noncommunication play out among future employers? It's like he wants to create animosity IMO. Unless he has been in contact with PIT all along but I seriously think he's said nothing to them. He will want a huge deal next year in FA - can he get it? He is only 26 and should have 3 to 5 more years barring injury. I am fascinated in how this plays out. But I cannot see how he handled this not having some impact on his value. Have been saying this since the beginning of the season, he said he'd be there on Labor Day then didn't show up and was non committal. Many fans keep saying "he's elite, won't matter teams will offer him the sky and he'll get a great deal". I don't buy it NFL owners are more concerned about this stuff than some player with a past drug problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Conner is bad at pass protection and Le'Veon is great at it. Another thing that doesn't show up in statistics is how much focus they garner from the defense. Defenses put a lot of emphasis on stopping Le'Veon in both the run game and as a receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, michaelredd9 said: Another thing that doesn't show up in statistics is how much focus they garner from the defense. Defenses put a lot of emphasis on stopping Le'Veon in both the run game and as a receiver. That's sure to change here soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 59 minutes ago, soopanuts said: could see PIT riding Bell to save mileage on Conner. Conner has two more years left on his rookie deal. That is if they don't trade Bell first. Not a chance they are going to trust him to give 100% at this point . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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