Grits and Shins Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 This weekend I helped judge our local karate tournament. We have a rule that states that contestants that draw blood are disqualified. It is fairly straightforward ... you draw blood you are DQ'd. We allow no contact to the face. Head judge has some latitude. So I'm in a ring with a 4 man bracket going, 13 year old male red/brown belt division. At least one fight has already occurred. 6 seconds into round 1 of a fight both fighters punch each other in the face and both draw blood. Clearly one fighter took a harder hit and suffered more than the other. What is your ruling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 The fighter who struck first should be disqualified. You do know who struck first don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 who hit first? if it's too close to call, it has to be a draw. they both committed a disqualifying foul, i don't see how one can be more disqualifying than the other unless the rules somehow specify that. although if the one guy just had like a little papercut or something i would probably be inclined to view it a little differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 The fighter who struck first should be disqualified. You do know who struck first don't you? han solo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 They both struck at the same time or close enough to be indistinquishable as to which was first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 With what you said, both should be disqualified, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 With what you said, both should be disqualified, +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckB Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 With what you said, both should be disqualified, +dq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 With what you said, both should be disqualified, +3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 You DQ'd the one that wasn't hurt as bad didn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 With what you said, both should be disqualified, Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 they both should be dq'd for being so soft....6 seconds in and bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Myopia Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 I am just a myopic moron... but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeteebee Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 So I'm in a ring with a 4 man bracket going, 13 year old male red/brown belt division. At least one fight has already occurred. 6 seconds into round 1 of a fight both fighters punch each other in the face and both draw blood. Clearly one fighter took a harder hit and suffered more than the other. What is your ruling? Frank Dux would be proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 They both struck at the same time or close enough to be indistinquishable as to which was first. I say double DQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 They both struck at the same time or close enough to be indistinquishable as to which was first. both disqualified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Alright, so what did you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Coach Julio should decide. He's all knowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonkis Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Neither. Let 'em fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controller Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 WWCND? (What Would Chuck Norris Do?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 As I understand it a big part of Martial arts is discipline. The guy that did not control his punch to the point that he injured the fighter the most showed the least discipline (although the guy that took the bigger shot showed poor D) but bottom line I still feel the rules as you stated both get DQd because they both drew blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Sacrebleu Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 So I'm in a ring with a 4 man bracket going, 13 year old male red/brown belt division. All I can think of here is the seinfeld episode with cramer doing ka-rate against small children. It took me a while to figure out that you were "in the ring" as a ref, not as a contestant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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