moneymakers Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 ACORN Officials Videotaped Telling 'Pimp,' 'Prostitute' How to Lie to IRS http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548827,00.html Officials with the controversial community organizing group ACORN were secretly videotaped offering to assist two individuals posing as a pimp and a prostitute, encouraging them to lie to the Internal Revenue Service and providing guidance on how to claim underage girls from South America as dependents. The videotape was made public Thursday on BigGovernment.com, a political blog launched by Andrew Breitbart as a companion site to his BigHollywood.breitbart.com blog. In the videotape, made on July 24, James O'Keefe, a 25-year-old independent filmmaker, posed as a pimp with a 20-year-old woman named "Kenya" who posed as a prostitute while visiting ACORN's office in Baltimore. The couple told ACORN staffers they wanted to secure housing where the woman could continue to maintain a prostitution business. ACORN — the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now — bills itself as the nation's largest community of low- and moderate-income families "working together for social justice and stronger communities," according to its Web site. The organization has been accused by Republicans and conservative activists with fraud in voter registration drives around the country and has been under fire since last year for its support of President Obama and for its planned participation in next year's census. A spokesman for ACORN, Scott Levenson, when asked to comment on the videotape, said: "The portrayal is false and defamatory and an attempt at gotcha journalism. This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed. ACORN wants to see the full video before commenting further." On the videotape, "Kenya" can be seen telling an ACORN staffer that she earns roughly $8,000 a month. The ACORN employee then suggests to "Kenya" that ACORN could submit a tax return for 2008 showing that she made $9,600 for the entire year — instead of $96,000 — and that ACORN would charge "Kenya" $50 instead of the usual $150 fee for preparing her taxes. ACORN offers tax preparation and benefits application services free of charge during tax season; it charges nominal fees during non-tax season. The ACORN staffer can also be seen suggesting that the prostitute list her occupation as a freelance "performing artist." "It's not dancing, trust me," the "pimp" says. "But dancing is considered an art," the ACORN staffer replies. "[Exotic dancers] usually go under performing artists, or yeah, they usually go under performing arts, which will be what you are — a performing artist." The "pimp" later says that he and "Kenya" plan to bring up to 13 "very young" girls from El Salvador to work as prostitutes. Although an ACORN staffer points out their plans are illegal, she also suggests that the girls can be claimed as dependents. "What if they are going to be making money because they are performing tricks too?" the pimp says. "If they making money and they are underage, then you shouldn't be letting anybody know anyway," the ACORN staffer says, and laughs. "It's illegal. So I am not hearing this, I am not hearing this. You talk too much. Don't give up no information you're not asked." The "pimp" then asks ACORN staffers to "promise" not to discriminate against his sex worker because of "who she is and what she does," according to the audiotape. "If we don't have the information, then how are we going to discriminate?" the ACORN staffer replies. "You see what I am saying?" If the girls are under age 16, the ACORN staffer says on the tape, then they are not legally allowed to work in the state, regardless of what they do. "So it's like they don't even exist?" "Kenya" asks. "Exactly," the ACORN staffer replies. "It's like they don't even exist." The staffer goes on to suggest that as many as three of the underage girls can be listed as dependents at the home, but a "flag" will be raised if as many as 13 are listed. "You are gonna use three of them," the staffer says. "They are gonna be under 16, so you is eligible to get child tax credit and additional child tax credit." The ACORN workers also appear to be promoting the group's services to the "pimp" and "Kenya." A second ACORN employee can be heard on the audiotape suggesting that the couple join the organization for an annual cost of $120 prior to attending one of its first-time homebuyer seminars, which are underwritten with taxpayer funds. Later, when the "pimp" asks what would happen if the organization is somehow connected to the scheme, the ACORN staffer replies, "First of all, it's not gonna damage us because we not gonna know. And with your girls, you tell them, 'Be careful.' Train them to keep their mouth shut." "These girls are like 14, how can we trust them?" the pimp asks. "Just be very, very careful," the ACORN staffer says. "Whatever you do, always keep your eyes in the back of your head." Reached by FOX News, O'Keefe said he was "shocked" at the level of assistance provided by ACORN staffers. "I was prepared for them to call the police, throw me out of the office and be hostile," he said. "Without hesitation, they helped me every way they could with evading taxes and setting me up with a brothel, with getting around federal tax laws — doing everything they could to help us. I was completely shocked." House Republicans issued a report in July accusing ACORN of engaging in a scheme to use taxpayer money to support a partisan political agenda. California Rep. Darrell Issa, the top Republican on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, called for a criminal investigation into the group, which dismissed the report as a "partisan attack job." See Next Story in U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyman Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 ACORN Officials Videotaped Telling 'Pimp,' 'Prostitute' How to Lie to IRShttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,548827,00.html Officials with the controversial community organizing group ACORN were secretly videotaped offering to assist two individuals posing as a pimp and a prostitute, encouraging them to lie to the Internal Revenue Service and providing guidance on how to claim underage girls from South America as dependents. The videotape was made public Thursday on BigGovernment.com, a political blog launched by Andrew Breitbart as a companion site to his BigHollywood.breitbart.com blog. In the videotape, made on July 24, James O'Keefe, a 25-year-old independent filmmaker, posed as a pimp with a 20-year-old woman named "Kenya" who posed as a prostitute while visiting ACORN's office in Baltimore. The couple told ACORN staffers they wanted to secure housing where the woman could continue to maintain a prostitution business. ACORN — the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now — bills itself as the nation's largest community of low- and moderate-income families "working together for social justice and stronger communities," according to its Web site. The organization has been accused by Republicans and conservative activists with fraud in voter registration drives around the country and has been under fire since last year for its support of President Obama and for its planned participation in next year's census. A spokesman for ACORN, Scott Levenson, when asked to comment on the videotape, said: "The portrayal is false and defamatory and an attempt at gotcha journalism. This film crew tried to pull this sham at other offices and failed. ACORN wants to see the full video before commenting further." On the videotape, "Kenya" can be seen telling an ACORN staffer that she earns roughly $8,000 a month. The ACORN employee then suggests to "Kenya" that ACORN could submit a tax return for 2008 showing that she made $9,600 for the entire year — instead of $96,000 — and that ACORN would charge "Kenya" $50 instead of the usual $150 fee for preparing her taxes. ACORN offers tax preparation and benefits application services free of charge during tax season; it charges nominal fees during non-tax season. The ACORN staffer can also be seen suggesting that the prostitute list her occupation as a freelance "performing artist." "It's not dancing, trust me," the "pimp" says. "But dancing is considered an art," the ACORN staffer replies. "[Exotic dancers] usually go under performing artists, or yeah, they usually go under performing arts, which will be what you are — a performing artist." The "pimp" later says that he and "Kenya" plan to bring up to 13 "very young" girls from El Salvador to work as prostitutes. Although an ACORN staffer points out their plans are illegal, she also suggests that the girls can be claimed as dependents. "What if they are going to be making money because they are performing tricks too?" the pimp says. "If they making money and they are underage, then you shouldn't be letting anybody know anyway," the ACORN staffer says, and laughs. "It's illegal. So I am not hearing this, I am not hearing this. You talk too much. Don't give up no information you're not asked." The "pimp" then asks ACORN staffers to "promise" not to discriminate against his sex worker because of "who she is and what she does," according to the audiotape. "If we don't have the information, then how are we going to discriminate?" the ACORN staffer replies. "You see what I am saying?" If the girls are under age 16, the ACORN staffer says on the tape, then they are not legally allowed to work in the state, regardless of what they do. "So it's like they don't even exist?" "Kenya" asks. "Exactly," the ACORN staffer replies. "It's like they don't even exist." The staffer goes on to suggest that as many as three of the underage girls can be listed as dependents at the home, but a "flag" will be raised if as many as 13 are listed. "You are gonna use three of them," the staffer says. "They are gonna be under 16, so you is eligible to get child tax credit and additional child tax credit." The ACORN workers also appear to be promoting the group's services to the "pimp" and "Kenya." A second ACORN employee can be heard on the audiotape suggesting that the couple join the organization for an annual cost of $120 prior to attending one of its first-time homebuyer seminars, which are underwritten with taxpayer funds. Later, when the "pimp" asks what would happen if the organization is somehow connected to the scheme, the ACORN staffer replies, "First of all, it's not gonna damage us because we not gonna know. And with your girls, you tell them, 'Be careful.' Train them to keep their mouth shut." "These girls are like 14, how can we trust them?" the pimp asks. "Just be very, very careful," the ACORN staffer says. "Whatever you do, always keep your eyes in the back of your head." Reached by FOX News, O'Keefe said he was "shocked" at the level of assistance provided by ACORN staffers. "I was prepared for them to call the police, throw me out of the office and be hostile," he said. "Without hesitation, they helped me every way they could with evading taxes and setting me up with a brothel, with getting around federal tax laws — doing everything they could to help us. I was completely shocked." House Republicans issued a report in July accusing ACORN of engaging in a scheme to use taxpayer money to support a partisan political agenda. California Rep. Darrell Issa, the top Republican on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, called for a criminal investigation into the group, which dismissed the report as a "partisan attack job." See Next Story in U.S. George Bush's fault...if he would have killed all the poor people as planned, this would never have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Would this be like condemning the entire republican party for the immoral actions of some of their members like . . . Mark Sanford and projecting the actions of a few or single person onto the entire organization that person represents? Uh oh Republicans! Look slike NO ONE is above reproach anymore!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I don't see what the big deal is, I've been claiming my underaged Guatemalan hookers as dependents for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch? Edited September 10, 2009 by jetsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Let me try to spin it this way. There are bad people and bad eggs everywhere. Edited September 10, 2009 by Duchess Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I, for one, am shocked that there are people out there who try to cheat the IRS. Someone had better alert the Republicans, who had no idea this was even possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I, for one, am shocked that there are people out there who try to cheat the IRS. Someone had better alert the Republicans, who had no idea this was even possible. I know the tax cheat-in-chief didn't know it was possible - the guy who was tapped by the obamessiah to head treasury? Oh, how awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 ACORN is all kinds of dirty, anyone defending the organization has no credibility or is simply ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 ACORN is all kinds of dirty, anyone defending the organization has no credibility or is simply ignorant. Which brings the thread back to.... Would this be like condemning the entire republican party for the immoral actions of some of their members like . . . Mark Sanford and projecting the actions of a few or single person onto the entire organization that person represents? Uh oh Republicans! Looks like NO ONE is above reproach anymore!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 What are we supposed to spin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Which brings the thread back to.... To a lesser degree yes, but it could also be said about the Democrats as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 To a lesser degree yes, but it could also be said about the Democrats as well. Probably what he meant by no one. But thanks for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Probably what he meant by no one. But thanks for the clarification. moneymakers - using your logic (silly to use logic in relation to you) - is it safe to say that all Christians are pedophiles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Did I miss all the posts in which ACORN was "defended?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 What are we supposed to spin? Something about an employee of an organization acting precisely by the book in what said organization says they should be doing I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 moneymakers - using your logic (silly to use logic in relation to you) - is it safe to say that all Christians are pedophiles? Just the Catholics. Protestant Christians don't dip into that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Did I miss all the posts in which ACORN was "defended?" Wondering the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Let me try to spin it this way. There are bad people and bad eggs everywhere. There are no bad Eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borge007 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 ACORN is all kinds of dirty, anyone defending the organization has no credibility or is simply ignorant. Almost as bad as W and Chumply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 There are no bad Eggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Almost as bad as W and Chumply Not even close. When all the death and destruction is added up I hope their supporters are as outraged as over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 Say MM which one is yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneymakers Posted September 14, 2009 Author Share Posted September 14, 2009 LULU prez of Acorn Naw he aint got no money Linky no good lulu me gonna gets a house for free with acorn and pay me no taxes Baltimore-Washington and now New York just a couple a bad apples obama speeches still just speeches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 LULU prez of Acorn Naw he aint got no money Linky no good lulu me gonna gets a house for free with acorn and pay me no taxes Baltimore-Washington and now New York just a couple a bad apples obama speeches still just speeches It is so sad when Alzheimer's kicks in and those afflicted lose the ability to use verbs. Poor, poor MM. We need a prayer thread for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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