Footballjoe Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 As you know I have applied for a job out of town. One of the holdups as to whether or not I will accept the job is finding out the salary range. I know the low salary and was offered a salary. However the HR person cannot tell me the top out. He said the only one who knows that is his supervisor who is on vacation. That's sounds crazy to me. We just had a wage study done and all salaries were posted by position. How is it with your company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 As you know I have applied for a job out of town. One of the holdups as to whether or not I will accept the job is finding out the salary range. I know the low salary and was offered a salary. However the HR person cannot tell me the top out. He said the only one who knows that is his supervisor who is on vacation. That's sounds crazy to me. We just had a wage study done and all salaries were posted by position. How is it with your company? I've had it both ways, basically the larger the company, the more defined the pay structures, in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Arent there studies and sites that actually do calculations for average wages for positions? Or are you looking for the specific "only that company" range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 Arent there studies and sites that actually do calculations for average wages for positions? Or are you looking for the specific "only that company" range? I want to know what MY top out salary will be at the new company if I choose to accept the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I work for a Fortune 10 co. and pay scales are freely available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 My wife works for the government and all of their pay scales are online. I have typically worked for small companies and you will never find a pay scale for salesmen in my industry. Basically, you try to guess how much BS the owner is telling you. If he says a number, you assume about 75% of that is actually possible and he is just shooting hot air up your arse the rest of the time (and that is 75% if you are lucky). Basically, you try to work for the companies that either make a lot so they can cheat you out of money but you are still profitable, or you find a manager/owner that cheats you less than the others. It's a good time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_bone65 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Fed here, so yes OPM posts my salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 No, but I work in a company of 6 that is struggling financially. My former job was for a company that had ~500 local employees and another probably 2000 at regional warehouses. Hourly pay scales were more or less known, salary wasn't specifically stated but almost everyone was within 10-15% +/- of each other at the same position based on watercooler talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeteebee Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Absolutely not. But I work in a very white collar business where salaries and bonus structures can vary dramaticly based on negotiation skill and value ($) you can add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarina Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 As you know I have applied for a job out of town. One of the holdups as to whether or not I will accept the job is finding out the salary range. I know the low salary and was offered a salary. However the HR person cannot tell me the top out. He said the only one who knows that is his supervisor who is on vacation. That's sounds crazy to me. We just had a wage study done and all salaries were posted by position. How is it with your company? It is all right here: OPM pay table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Supposedly only 5 people in my company know what everyone makes. I say supposedly because I'm sure the people in the field talk about it, even though they are not supposed to. We do participate in industry surveys and give salary ranges for each position, but those surveys are confidential, and only tell the people that participate what the average salary per position is locally and regionally. We have thrown that out on the table before during a meeting with our supers just to show them that they are being paid well over the industry average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Absolutely not. But I work in a very white collar business where salaries and bonus structures can vary dramaticly based on negotiation skill and value ($) you can add. This. I know I make quite a bit of a difference than the guy doing a very similar job to me....and he's been there longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Absolutely not. But I work in a very white collar business where salaries and bonus structures can vary dramaticly based on negotiation skill and value ($) you can add. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Supposedly only 5 people in my company know what everyone makes. I say supposedly because I'm sure the people in the field talk about it, even though they are not supposed to. We do participate in industry surveys and give salary ranges for each position, but those surveys are confidential, and only tell the people that participate what the average salary per position is locally and regionally. We have thrown that out on the table before during a meeting with our supers just to show them that they are being paid well over the industry average. And this (except my department has three people who know all the salaries - me and two others). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I work for a large company where a hard salary martix exists, but is not published information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_bone65 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 It is all right here:OPM pay table :highfive: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Absolutely not. But I work in a very white collar business where salaries and bonus structures can vary dramaticly based on negotiation skill and value ($) you can add. This. However I do a blind comparison from our auditor that specializes in my business that shows us what the "market" is . . but not the names of the clubs. VERY helpful in negotiations . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Work in a regulated industry. Every position has a pay range, a market average, a target bonus percentage and that is available for every job title. Now, exec packages are not as widely known, and their bonuses are much higher/different than typical management/worker bees, but certain people have access to the data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted August 20, 2010 Author Share Posted August 20, 2010 Doesn't it seem strange that in a city government type job only one person has access to this info? I wonder if they offered me the top salary to get me in the door and then going to stick it to me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Wal-Mart does not publish theirs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 :highfive: you know it, thank you Houston locality pay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Doesn't it seem strange that in a city government type job only one person has access to this info? I wonder if they offered me the top salary to get me in the door and then going to stick it to me? Have you seen what has been going on herein Southern California with regard to pay for city officials. Seems like it is the norm to allow for greater abuse, all public officials salries should be public knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Have you seen what has been going on herein Southern California with regard to pay for city officials. Seems like it is the norm to allow for greater abuse, all public officials salries should be public knowledge. All state employees (at least the ones that work in colleges) in Virginia salaries are public knowledge. No matter the level. I can agree that it should be public knowledge over a certain level, but not the regular rank and file employees. This causes more crap than anything for obvious reasons among the underlings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 Wal-Mart does not publish theirs They get so many lawsuits that it's good to keep what you can secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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