Jackass Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 only thing i can think of is captain must've been drunk or high and had to get the hell out of there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 only thing i can think of is captain must've been drunk or high and had to get the hell out of there. DO you know a captain that isn't drunk or high? I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 DO you know a captain that isn't drunk or high? I don't. No, of course we can't know that. At least not yet. But I think it's safe to say that he was almost certainly a pitbull owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 People make mistakes. Except some of you I'm sure. Â Terrible tragedy - and I'm sure the Captain will pay dearly for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joessfl Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 People make mistakes. Except some of you I'm sure.  Terrible tragedy - and I'm sure the Captain will pay dearly for it.  Agreed. I think justice will be found in this one. There are too many survivor stories and too many facts that he can skirt around this.  ETA Sounds like two mistakes:  1) By the reports I read, the course was set in the navigation system before it even left port. So if it was changed, thats bad. If it wasnt changed, wasnt someone checking the radar/sonar and all those other nautical gadgets? (See my terminology? I know so much about sailing  2) The topic of conversation. His lack of character in recovering as best he could to minimize the tradgedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 There are "mistakes" like simple human error...say, a mathematical error in calculating a route, or running out of pineapple, which are expected and unavoidable. Then there is gross negligence, ignoring procedure, cowardice, dereliction of duty, and disobeying direct orders. The former won't usually get anyone killed, the latter in inexcusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 No, of course we can't know that. At least not yet. But I think it's safe to say that he was almost certainly a pitbull owner. Didn't see that one coming. Nice work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I think that goal was accomplished without the Coast Guard having to do much. It will be interesting to see what Italy does. Considering they kept an American woman incarcerated for a long time without iron clad evidence, this guy should be in real big trouble. Â I agree, I was pissed when they arrested Snookie for driving into a cop car. They had no proof she was drunk so I don't know why they detained her for hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I agree, I was pissed when they arrested Snookie for driving into a cop car. They had no proof she was drunk so I don't know why they detained her for hours. Â Exactly. Besides, she was just distraught that Bill was kidnapped by werewolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Shame on you people for making unfounded accusations against an innocent captain. Â I tripped and fell into the lifeboat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I've heard that excuse before  NSFW language Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joessfl Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Shame on you people for making unfounded accusations against an innocent captain. I tripped and fell into the lifeboat   I am sure that was just a translation error. He really "dropped something" and then was "tripping in the lifeboat"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Shame on you people for making unfounded accusations against an innocent captain. I tripped and fell into the lifeboat  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joessfl Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Â I watched it and didnt see any boat in that. Be honest. That isnt a video of the captain, is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I watched it and didnt see any boat in that. Be honest. That isnt a video of the captain, is it? No, was aimed at the excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Shame on you people for making unfounded accusations against an innocent captain. I tripped and fell into the lifeboat   Greatest excuse ever.  Fell into a lifeboat. He's like the luckiest captain in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Every time I see a photo of that thing, I am amazed at how few people died. Last I heard 11 dead and less than 50 missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 There are "mistakes" like simple human error...say, a mathematical error in calculating a route, or running out of pineapple, which are expected and unavoidable. Then there is gross negligence, ignoring procedure, cowardice, dereliction of duty, and disobeying direct orders. The former won't usually get anyone killed, the latter in inexcusable. Â Understood. If you are going to only fry the captain, then you better fry others as well. Â Ignoring procedure - like running through an evacuation drill within 24 hours of being at sea. OK, if it didn't happen, he's ultimately responsible for it, but he's not the guy that makes sure that happens. If there's a checklist, and someone checked it off, and it didn't happen, then how is it his fault. Not saying that happened or not, but there are far more people to blame here than one person. Â I'm not defending him, but this was a complete mess, not a one man job. It's easy to pin it all on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 There are "mistakes" like simple human error...say, a mathematical error in calculating a route, or running out of pineapple, which are expected and unavoidable. Then there is gross negligence, ignoring procedure, cowardice, dereliction of duty, and disobeying direct orders. The former won't usually get anyone killed, the latter in inexcusable. Â agreed ... + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 agreed ... + 1 Â Wait....hold the phone. Â Do you agree, or do you +1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Wait....hold the phone. Do you agree, or do you +1?  ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I'm printing a pic of that have submerged cruiseliner for use anytime my wife suggests we take a cruise. Maybe this tragedy can serve a purpose - for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Apparently he was helping a passenger, tripped, and fell into a lifeboat. And you guys are out there trying to cruficy the poor guy without knowing all the facts. Â http://news.yahoo.com/cruise-captain-says-...--abc-news.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 I'm printing a pic of that have submerged cruiseliner for use anytime my wife suggests we take a cruise. Maybe this tragedy can serve a purpose - for me. Cruising is ridiculously safe. You're far more likely to die from driving your car to work than you are on a cruise ship. It's like people being afraid to fly. Somehow people think that if they aren't behind the wheel than there is some higher risk that they are going to die. It's plain illogical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenzal rhomb Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Cruising is ridiculously safe. You're far more likely to die from driving your car to work than you are on a cruise ship. It's like people being afraid to fly. Somehow people think that if they aren't behind the wheel than there is some higher risk that they are going to die. It's plain illogical. No - I disagree that its not about being behind the wheel. I think its that three seconds after a plane lifts off the ground, my chance of surviving a crash are pretty nil. Ive been in auto accidents and walked away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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