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I installed a rule for play-off seedings in a league I formed this year and am going to propose it to my other one for next year. In both leagues, we have a 4 team play-off. It's a pick your poison rule. That is, the 1st seed gets to pick which of the other play-off teams he wants for his semi-final matchup. That would end any silliness like this as well as provide a true reward for the #1 overall seed.

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I installed a rule for play-off seedings in a league I formed this year and am going to propose it to my other one for next year. In both leagues, we have a 4 team play-off. It's a pick your poison rule. That is, the 1st seed gets to pick which of the other play-off teams he wants for his semi-final matchup. That would end any silliness like this as well as provide a true reward for the #1 overall seed.

 

 

I like this rule Detlef. it definately helps with the fairness of a league.

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I installed a rule for play-off seedings in a league I formed this year and am going to propose it to my other one for next year. In both leagues, we have a 4 team play-off. It's a pick your poison rule. That is, the 1st seed gets to pick which of the other play-off teams he wants for his semi-final matchup. That would end any silliness like this as well as provide a true reward for the #1 overall seed.

 

Well, now there is an interesting idea I have never heard of. How does it work out usually? Do teams guess correctly?

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I installed a rule for play-off seedings in a league I formed this year and am going to propose it to my other one for next year. In both leagues, we have a 4 team play-off. It's a pick your poison rule. That is, the 1st seed gets to pick which of the other play-off teams he wants for his semi-final matchup. That would end any silliness like this as well as provide a true reward for the #1 overall seed.

Great idea. Should be implemented universally.

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I agree with the consensus here. If you can make a subtle roster move that might sway the outcome without raising too many eyebrows, I say maybe do that. But an all out tanking is just begging for trouble. I have seen so many teams rise from the muck of the lower seeds to win the championship, I wouldn't go into weeks 14-16 with too many pre-conceived notions. That lower seed you seek to go against might just reach up and bite you in the ass.

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I installed a rule for play-off seedings in a league I formed this year and am going to propose it to my other one for next year. In both leagues, we have a 4 team play-off. It's a pick your poison rule. That is, the 1st seed gets to pick which of the other play-off teams he wants for his semi-final matchup. That would end any silliness like this as well as provide a true reward for the #1 overall seed.

 

We've toyed with this idea for awhile now but never implemented it. It would be interesting to know how often the 1 seed chose correctly.

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Play your best lineup every week and let the cards fall where they may.

 

 

Oh and interesting idea Detlef :wacko:

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These things tend to backfire.

 

Last week I played the 2nd worst team in the league.

I have the #1 team in both record and in points. Sounds like an easy win.

 

I got my arse handed to me.

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Well, now there is an interesting idea I have never heard of. How does it work out usually? Do teams guess correctly?

This is the first year I'm doing it, so I don't know. One thing, of course, is that it is 100% "fair". Of course, those in the league that I've talked about the rule with fear it as yet another thing that can come back to bite you in the ass. Not unlike having an embarrassment of riches at a certain position. It's nice to have a few guys to choose from to start but you end up always benching a guy who goes off. Obviously, the same could happen here. Who knows, but nobody is going to get screwed.

 

So, we'll see. At this point, I've all but locked up the #1 seed. Among the other contenders, there's certainly one that has been doing it with smoke and mirrors but is currently tied for 2nd, so he's my 1st choice. He's actually 6th overall in total points scored but is the guy who always seems to play the week's low scorer.

 

Oh, and part of why I did this was because of how we're determining who even makes the play-offs. We take the top 3 W/L records and then the team with the highest total points among the rest of the league. Since total points may actually be a better indicator of how strong your team is, I felt that it might actually suck to be the #1 seed and draw a guy who might be the next best team in the play-offs. Which, if the play-offs began today, would be precisely the case. I have the best record and the highest total points but the guy with the next highest point total and arguably the next best team is currently tied for 4th.

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Thats an interesting idea..I am going to propose this

 

round 1

Seed 1 & 2 - 1st round Bye

Seed 3 (Winner of the 3rd and last division) gets to choose his opponent

 

round 2

Seed 1 chooses the opponen

 

round 3 = big game

 

I love it

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We take the top 3 W/L records and then the team with the highest total points among the rest of the league.

I like that idea too.

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I had a similar situation last year, tried to win...and lost anyway, then got hammered in the first playoff game by the "favorable" matchup

 

I'm with the FF gods statement - "YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME"

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Unethical is not the appropriate word, but its something like that.

 

I think that fanstasy football owners have the obligation to start what they believe to be their best lineup. Every week. End of story.

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For shame Russman..For shame....This thread reminds me of one thing. Why was there no Russman challenge this year ?

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Unethical is not the appropriate word, but its something like that.

 

I think that fanstasy football owners have the obligation to start what they believe to be their best lineup. Every week. End of story.

 

 

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For shame Russman..For shame....This thread reminds me of one thing. Why was there no Russman challenge this year ?

 

 

LOL. Too busy this year.

 

Me winning or losing will not effect any team making the playoffs. The playoff teams are set. I'm just trying to avoid the guy that has the easiest matchups. I know there are no gauruntees, just trying to increase my chances, much in the way we decide which players we want to go with each week.

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Why worry about playing good teams in the playoffs? If you can't beat a few teams then it won't matter if you lose to get a better matchup.

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You play to win the championship, not one game. Go for it. if it gives you a better matchup and a better chance to win, then do not even hesitate to do this. It really is the logical play here.

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We take the top 3 W/L records and then the team with the highest total points among the rest of the league.

 

While I was intrigued by your seeding idea, I'm not a fan of this one. I'd hate to have a 6-7 team in before an 8-5 team because he scored a few more points throughout the year.

 

I think a better way to recognize the teams that had a good season points wise throughout the year but missed the playoffs is to pay out the top X number of spots in total points (my league is a 14-teamer and we pay the top 5 spots). We actually pay 40% or so of the total pot to total points teams.

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I tried to lose once last year, in order to qualify for the toilet bowl.

 

I set a league record high score. :D

 

Too easy to out-strategize yourself. :wacko:

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I installed a rule for play-off seedings in a league I formed this year and am going to propose it to my other one for next year. In both leagues, we have a 4 team play-off. It's a pick your poison rule. That is, the 1st seed gets to pick which of the other play-off teams he wants for his semi-final matchup. That would end any silliness like this as well as provide a true reward for the #1 overall seed.

We call it "Pick your Poision". I have never done well when I was the number one overall. I never pick the correct poision.

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While I was intrigued by your seeding idea, I'm not a fan of this one. I'd hate to have a 6-7 team in before an 8-5 team because he scored a few more points throughout the year.

 

I think a better way to recognize the teams that had a good season points wise throughout the year but missed the playoffs is to pay out the top X number of spots in total points (my league is a 14-teamer and we pay the top 5 spots). We actually pay 40% or so of the total pot to total points teams.

The reason why your concern doesn't bother me is that, unlike pretty much unlike any other competition, the will to win only affects your ability to score points, not your ability to score more than your opponent. Winning ugly is not a sign of grit and determination, it's a sign of being lucky enough to be playing a team that just happened to suck more than you did.

 

Honestly, the only reason why head to head should even exist in Fantasy is to make it interesting week in and week out. You're not actually "playing anyone". You're just putting up as many points as you can and having them compared to some other team at random. I think that by making 3 of the 4 playoff teams determined by record gives enough credence to what is technically something that barely deserves any.

 

In reality, rather than throwing a token bone to the high points guy, we should be throwing a token bone to the high record guy.

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