cre8tiff Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 uh, the vast majority of us understood what you were saying... we were just disagreeing with you Deja Vu all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 uh, the vast majority of us understood what you were saying... we were just disagreeing with you Whatever skimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Whatever skimmer whatever, mr. government subsidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 Deja Vu all over again. I wouldn't be proud of being on the side of majority. I think history paints a fairly obvious picture that the majority is rarely right and often very wrong in their assumptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 whatever, mr. government subsidy whatever keyensian fantasyland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Out of curiosity, what are the potential Karmic repercussions for altering the natural time of birth? I've never heard of this before and am genuinely interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Does your approach to death work the same as life here as well? Are you going to not want to alter the natural time of death for any family members? No life saving drugs, surgeries, etc? Edited March 24, 2010 by CaP'N GRuNGe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 She reminded me that it's her decision. *sigh* If my wife said that to me it would honestly bother me, and I would probably be feeling the same way you are, but I am almost certain that it would be this statement that set me to being bothered. I would probably communicate that it would be my hope that we could work this out together and approach things with that mindset. I would want to heed the advice of the doctors, and am not saying I would be for or against inducing. I would just hope that there would be some understanding between my wife and I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 *sigh* If my wife said that to me it would honestly bother me, and I would probably be feeling the same way you are, but I am almost certain that it would be this statement that set me to being bothered. I would probably communicate that it would be my hope that we could work this out together and approach things with that mindset. I would want to heed the advice of the doctors, and am not saying I would be for or against inducing. I would just hope that there would be some understanding between my wife and I. Trust me, this decision will be shared by both. I will get my way if I want it bad enough and as it stands right now, we will do this naturally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Trust me, this decision will be shared by both. I will get my way if I want it bad enough and as it stands right now, we will do this naturally. I am glad to hear that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 Does your approach to death work the same as life here as well? Are you going to not want to alter the natural time of death for any family members? No life saving drugs, surgeries, etc? No because the timing of death cannot alter your human existence, in an astrological sense anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 Trust me, this decision will be shared by both. I will get my way if I want it bad enough and as it stands right now, we will do this naturally. Aren't the bolded and underlined statements basically opposite of one another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 No because the timing of death cannot alter your human existence, in an astrological sense anyways. Whozawhat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 First of all let me say that I think your wife and child will probably be fine whether she's induced or not. Although on rare occasions I have induced a patient for a social indication (husband being deployed, etc.), in general I'm not in favor of induction for non-medical reasons because of the higher incidence of complications and cesarean section with inductions. Inductions can also take a long time (i.e. days) and patients get very frustrated. If the cervix is unfavorable (less than 2cm dilated), the induction is usually started by placing a prostaglandin med in the vagina. This can take up to 24 hours to ripen the cervix. If the cervix is at least 2cm dilated the prostaglandin med is not needed, and it is possible to either break the membranes or use IV pitocin to start labor contractions. This obviously shortens the overall length of time for the induction. As much as obstetricians would like to think we do labor better than nature, we don't. Those who play, will sometimes pay. Hope this info helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 First of all let me say that I think your wife and child will probably be fine whether she's induced or not. Although on rare occasions I have induced a patient for a social indication (husband being deployed, etc.), in general I'm not in favor of induction for non-medical reasons because of the higher incidence of complications and cesarean section with inductions. Inductions can also take a long time (i.e. days) and patients get very frustrated. If the cervix is unfavorable (less than 2cm dilated), the induction is usually started by placing a prostaglandin med in the vagina. This can take up to 24 hours to ripen the cervix. If the cervix is at least 2cm dilated the prostaglandin med is not needed, and it is possible to either break the membranes or use IV pitocin to start labor contractions. This obviously shortens the overall length of time for the induction. As much as obstetricians would like to think we do labor better than nature, we don't. Those who play, will sometimes pay. Hope this info helps. You said vagina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 No because the timing of death cannot alter your human existence, in an astrological sense anyways. heeeeyyy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeteebee Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 No because the timing of death cannot alter your human existence, in an astrological sense anyways. But can't it affect the space time continuum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 But can't it affect the space time continuum? I have just felt a ripple in the Elliott Wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I have just felt a ripple in the Elliott Wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 By the way, Brent, I seriously do wish all the best for your wife and baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 By the way, Brent, I seriously do wish all the best for your wife and baby! I concur. May your baby be born at its natural hour, thus pleasing Xenu and staving off the Afflictions of all Manner of Devilment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I think if your second child comes into the world in a haze of drugs, she may relate to you a bit better than if she is sober? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 If the cervix is unfavorable (less than 2cm dilated), the induction is usually started by placing a prostaglandin med in the vagina. Is Brent allowed to use himself as the applicator of the medicine? This can take up to 24 hours to ripen the cervix. Something smells fishy? By the way, Brent, I seriously do wish all the best for your wife and baby! I however, wish the best to Brent, his wife and baby, the whole lot of them. I won't leave you out Brent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted March 24, 2010 Share Posted March 24, 2010 I wouldn't be proud of being on the side of majority. I think history paints a fairly obvious picture that the majority is rarely right and often very wrong in their assumptions. Picture please... First of all let me say that I think your wife and child will probably be fine whether she's induced or not. Although on rare occasions I have induced a patient for a social indication (husband being deployed, etc.), in general I'm not in favor of induction for non-medical reasons because of the higher incidence of complications and cesarean section with inductions. Inductions can also take a long time (i.e. days) and patients get very frustrated. If the cervix is unfavorable (less than 2cm dilated), the induction is usually started by placing a prostaglandin med in the vagina. This can take up to 24 hours to ripen the cervix. If the cervix is at least 2cm dilated the prostaglandin med is not needed, and it is possible to either break the membranes or use IV pitocin to start labor contractions. This obviously shortens the overall length of time for the induction. As much as obstetricians would like to think we do labor better than nature, we don't. Those who play, will sometimes pay. Hope this info helps. Eww...I don't want any dirty pillow talk Chargerz... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 By the way, Brent, I seriously do wish all the best for your wife and baby! Same to you, Wiegie. Although we have different views on almost everything (basically, I'm smarter ), I still respect you and wish you good fortune and health. I'll see you on the other side of DOW = 5,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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