Jump to content
[[Template core/front/custom/_customHeader is throwing an error. This theme may be out of date. Run the support tool in the AdminCP to restore the default theme.]]

Tough Decision re: the Housing Market


SheikYerbuti
 Share

Recommended Posts

You're moving. Choose:

 

1. Sell your current house in the worst market in decades. Take a bloodbath, get what you can, and move on.

 

2. Turn your house into a rental property and try to find the right tenant, recoup some of your investment, and try to sell it a few years down the road in a hopefully better market.

 

Assume for the sake of simplicity that the house is paid off. Carrying costs would only be the real estate taxes and insurance.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Id choose # 2 and try and cover the taxes and insurance with the rent you bring in , which shouldnt be hard if there is no mortgage. You also keep the tax benefits

Link to comment
Share on other sites

What kind of shape is the house in now. If it is sale ready. sell it.

will you have to replace roof/hvac in 5 years?

If yes? Than sell it.

 

If no mortgage on house than tax benefits are very minimal. Actually depreciation tax benefit may end up costing you big time if Bush tax cuts are repealed. You also lose your homestead for property taxes .

 

I would sell this house and buy 5 more that will cash flow with the equity that you receive.

Interest rates are your best friend right now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

it is very possible the market gets worse before it gets better. the price is what it is, don't base your decision on an assumption about it getting back to where it was in the past. the question is, do you want to be a landlord and a real estate investor, or would you rather spend your time and take your chances with something else?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

These rates have got to go up in the next few years, don't they? If not, great. But when they do, housing prices go down, again. I am in Delaware, bought a townhouse for 220K, 8 years ago. Market had it at 310K, at the peak, now 270K. I think it has to keep heading down, at some point.

 

I would sell & get it off my mind.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

If the house is paid off, easy decision for me: sell. I don't want the headaches of being a landlord or having to worry about repairs. If there were indications the market was rebounding, I might hold off, but there is no end in sight. You'll recoup less when you sell because of the market, but also pay less for your new home.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I guess it really depends on if you want to be a landlord. What a pain in the ass thankless bullsheet job that can be. Not to mention you get some renter that will likely trash the place that just wants to party in Atlantic City for awhile. Oh, unless you're the few lucky ones that gets a decent renter. Good luck with that.

 

I probably lean towards selling if the house is free and clear. I think hanging on to it for the decade (at minimum) it's gonna take to bounce back is not gonna be worth my time and effort to fix someone's sink that breaks the Saturday I'm on vacation.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

the news out there isn't great. that with interest rates at all time lows and propped up with false demand in the form of government subsidies. yeah I wouldn't be sitting around waiting for a big recovery any time soon.

 

It wouldn't take a big recovery to make renting a good investment. If I can make, let's say 20K in profit by renting the house for 2 years, then sell it at the exact same price it would have sold for this year, that makes up for a lot of the loss between purchase price and sale price.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Also consider the income tax consequences of selling the house- if it is free & clear, your basis is probably very small compared to the selling price, even in this depressed market. As a result, you might have a hefty income tax hit if you sell.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I guess it really depends on if you want to be a landlord. What a pain in the ass thankless bullsheet job that can be. Not to mention you get some renter that will likely trash the place that just wants to party in Atlantic City for awhile. Oh, unless you're the few lucky ones that gets a decent renter. Good luck with that.

 

I probably lean towards selling if the house is free and clear. I think hanging on to it for the decade (at minimum) it's gonna take to bounce back is not gonna be worth my time and effort to fix someone's sink that breaks the Saturday I'm on vacation.

 

 

For once, Timmmayyyy makes sense. You don't want to rent your house to anybody that you don't know unless somebody that you trust vouches for them. Professional tenants play the system. They'll pay rent for a few months and otherwise appear to be a solid tenant. One day they'll decide to stop paying rent and they will stay for as long as you let them, anticipating that they will get at least of few rent free months. You'll have to file an action to evict them. They'll vacate the premises the day before the order of eviction is enforceable. If you're lucky, they won't trash the place or steal anything. I wouldn't count on either.

Edited by Furd
Link to comment
Share on other sites

For once, Timmmayyyy makes sense. You don't want to rent your house to anybody that you don't know unless somebody that you trust vouches for them. Professional tenants play the system. They'll pay rent for a few months and otherwise appear to be a solid tenant. One day they'll decide to stop paying rent and they will stay for as long as you let them, anticipating that they will get at least of few rent free months. You'll have to file an action to evict them. They'll vacate the premises the day before the order of eviction is enforceable. If you're lucky, they won't trash the place or steal anything. I wouldn't count on either.

 

We call them Audi drivers here. They act a big game while they're at the starting line and then quickly fizzle out by the time they hit the 1/4 mile mark.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We call them Audi drivers here. They act a big game while they're at the starting line and then quickly fizzle out by the time they hit the 1/4 mile mark.

 

 

You have been insufferable ever since the Corvette wrested the King of the Trailer Park honors from the Mustang.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Also consider the income tax consequences of selling the house- if it is free & clear, your basis is probably very small compared to the selling price, even in this depressed market. As a result, you might have a hefty income tax hit if you sell.

Careful. The first $250,000 of capital gain - not sales proceeds - is tax free. If you're married, its $500,000. So unless we're talking about selling for $500,000 MORE than you bought the place for, there should be no capital gains tax. (If the seller is married).

 

And even if there were tax, the cap gains rates is at a historic low in 2010 and slated to go up in 2011 if/when the Bush-era tax cuts expire at the end of this year.

 

As far as being a landlord, I would go that route IF AND ONLY if I was going to be physically present to deal with the property. Being a long-distance landlord is a recipe for disaster. But keep in mind, I'm special. I'm good a doing my own home improvements and I'm an attorney. So I'm in a better position than most to deal with the typikal renter-related BS. I'd then take the net rental income and just dump into the new mortgage, pay that bitch down as fast as I could, turn that into a rental in 7-8 years, then wash, rinse, repeat. But that's me.

Edited by yo mama
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Not to mention you get some renter that will likely trash the place that just wants to party in Atlantic City for awhile. Oh, unless you're the few lucky ones that gets a decent renter. Good luck with that.

 

Background check. Credit check. References. Previous landlord references. Proof of employment. Interview.

 

It's work, but I think it's possible to get a responsible tenant.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Background check. Credit check. References. Previous landlord references. Proof of employment. Interview.

 

It's work, but I think it's possible to get a responsible tenant.

 

If it's pretty much paid free and clear, then you could also get a property management company to handle the large majority of this..... you just collect your check from them each month, they get a cut. Assuming you can rent it for more than the monthly mortgage, if any, that is due, not neccessarily a bad option, especially if you want to keep open the idea of moving back to the same place in Jersey down the road.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Background check. Credit check. References. Previous landlord references. Proof of employment. Interview.

 

It's work, but I think it's possible to get a responsible tenant.

With todays rates and prices those people don't rent. They buy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information