NSab Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Wow what a bad joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSupe4You Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I meant the PI against SHIELDS on the last Seahawk drive. My bad. I got the SH part right at least... And the PI I am referring to was actually against Chancellor on third down in the red zone and ultimately led to GB's TD. I am thinking it is likely GB would of kicked a field goal on 4th and 2, but of course with time and score being different the whole game would have changed anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Golden Tate when asked about pushing off, "I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about." ....riiiiiiiight. Actually I liked that. He knew exactly what happened and was able to say that with the straightest face ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprtfan Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 If the guy on espn was right, possession was not reviewable. They can only rule if he was in bounds and if the ball hit the ground. If this was the case, the guys reviewing the play had his hands tied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Just saw a thing on ESPN that said that the possession was not reviewable. They can only rule if he was in bounds and if the ball hit the ground. This was from a video from the old official that was in the booth with the announcers. Could explain why it was not overturned at least. Wow, that's crap....isn't the new rule that EVERY turnover play is reviewed? How are they not deciding "possession" on those? Bullsh*t ass-covering hedging. If you're going to call it that the intended receiver did not go out of bounds and the ball did not hit the ground, then just about every end zone int is now a td. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) Golden Tate when asked about pushing off, "I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about." ....riiiiiiiight. What else was he supposed to say, lol. That's almost like Pete Carroll's response when asked what he'd tell one of his receivers if they had the opportunity again to make a block like Tate's made on Lee in the Dallas-Sea game. He diplomatically said something about using it as an teaching opportunity to show his players how to make legal hits, when everyone knows he was thinking "hell yes, you pop him!". Edited September 25, 2012 by Tripleshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingslayer Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Actually I liked that. He knew exactly what happened and was able to say that with the straightest face ever. He did keep a straight face, but he responded so quickly and with such a defensive tone in his voice that it can off as very abrasive, to me at least. But yes, his face was set in stone, ha. I'm sure he was rehearsing like a fiend before hitting the interviewers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 If the guy on espn was right, possession was not reviewable. They can only rule if he was in bounds and if the ball hit the ground. If this was the case, the guys reviewing the play had his hands tied. Is the point of replay to get the call CORRECT, or is it just to make everyone feel good? I can think of 4 or 5 different interpretations to make the correct call - "did the Seattle WR control the ball?" "no, he did not"; "was the Seattle WR in bounds?" "yes he was, but he never had possession of the ball"; "did the ball hit the ground?" "no it did not, but the Seattle WR never had control" etc etc. Crap call. (and to answer a fair-enough question of "would I be this pissed if it hadn't happened to 'my' team?"; maybe not THIS pissed, but yeah, I'd be taking the same stance. Right is right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 And the PI I am referring to was actually against Chancellor on third down in the red zone and ultimately led to GB's TD. I am thinking it is likely GB would of kicked a field goal on 4th and 2, but of course with time and score being different the whole game would have changed anyways. That was 3rd and 2 at the Seattle 47 when that PI was called. There wouldn't have been a field goal try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 By the way, has Pete Carroll's face always looked like it was caved in with a brick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 Hmmm...well good game GB...Seattle is 1-2, Seatle is 2-1, but I'm more concerned about the refs...it's f'n horrendous. Edit for accuracy....but the point about the refs is even more substantiated after I made the post. Horrendous, disgusting, hopeful tipping point...can we as fans...at least not agree on the fact we need professional refs for pro games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Wow, that's crap....isn't the new rule that EVERY turnover play is reviewed? How are they not deciding "possession" on those? Bullsh*t ass-covering hedging. yeah and I don't think it's accurate. I've seen many possession calls reviewed. maybe the replay ref wanted to hang them out and make the on-field refs look bad, as an act of solidarity with the regular refs. I say that sorta tongue in cheek, but it's actually not outside the realm of possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 http://www.steelersd.../09/touception/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 http://www.steelersd.../09/touception/ Someone needs to do one showing Russell Wilson throwing the game-winning interception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 roger.goodell2@nfl.net (212)450-2027 BTW - the phone number works...I just called and got through to voicemail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) As a Packer fan, I don't have problem losing this game to Seattle, they played really well. I have a problem with HOW GB lost the game. I was "woe is me'ing" the horrendous defensive PI call in Seattle late in the game...which I feared was going to be the ultimate game changer......only to see about 3 or 4 horrendous more game changers called on GB. I thought my injustice was going to be the tipping point...until the refs made several horrendous tipping point calls in favor of the Hawks. It's a shame...because it really had the makings of a good NFL football game. My team won...but I feel absolutely dirty about the win. And if I was an unbiased viewer; I'd have about enough. Edited September 25, 2012 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSupe4You Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 That was 3rd and 2 at the Seattle 47 when that PI was called. There wouldn't have been a field goal try. For some reason I thought it was closer to the end of the drive than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) yeah and I don't think it's accurate. I've seen many possession calls reviewed. maybe the replay ref wanted to hang them out and make the on-field refs look bad, as an act of solidarity with the regular refs. I say that sorta tongue in cheek, but it's actually not outside the realm of possibility. So now the booth officials have it out for the NFL. Yeah, ok... let's screw our employer in order to get our buddies back to work. Edited September 25, 2012 by rajncajn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 It's a shame...because it really had the makings of a good NFL football game. My team won...but I feel absolutely dirty about the win. And if I was an unbiased viewer; I'd have about enough. I'm sitting here in Packerland and people are going "man, GB SUCKED tonight" - which their OL did, but I tend to think that Pete Carroll has built up a pretty good program there in the Northwest, just nobody knows it. And you're right - instead of this being a not-quite classic, but satisfying, hard-fought win for the vitor (whoever that would have been), it's going to be remembered for the trainwreck of a blown, game-winning call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) So now the booth officials have it out for the NFL. Yeah, ok... let's screw our employer in order to get our buddies back to work. The booth can only call for a replay. The ref on the field sustained the call and the booth has no authority to overturn it. These are not college rules. Edited September 25, 2012 by Big John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd Dobler Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Tuba Man could soothe our souls if only he were still here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Tuba Man could soothe our souls if only he were still here... http://www.sadtuba.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I'm sitting here in Packerland and people are going "man, GB SUCKED tonight" - which their OL did, but I tend to think that Pete Carroll has built up a pretty good program there in the Northwest, just nobody knows it. And you're right - instead of this being a not-quite classic, but satisfying, hard-fought win for the vitor (whoever that would have been), it's going to be remembered for the trainwreck of a blown, game-winning call. That is the shame in all of this. Those officials ruined a very good football game played by two very good teams. It isn't these officials fault. They are way out of their league. Shame on the NFL & Roger Goodell. You could see this coming, as there were atrocious calls in every game. It was a matter of time before one was as meaningful as this one was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I missed the first half (work) but i got out of it: 1) GB offensive line sucked in the first half and Sea D line was awesome. 2) Pack D was great the whole game. 3) Pack O looked good in the 2nd half. 4) Completely ignoring the final play, I saw many bad calls and I understand that there were many more in the first half. (against both teams) 5) Could have been considered a classic but will always be thought about because of one play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazerom Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 It's been mentioned about eventually installing an NHL-like replay system on all scoring plays. Too little too late, but after this it might be necessary, regular refs or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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