Big John Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Eagles send 16th, 19th, and 194th 2022 picks Saints send 18th, 101st, and 237th 2022 picks, 2023 1st-round pick and a 2024 2nd-round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Paging @rajncajn -- what are the Saints up to here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) Looks like Saints are trading future picks to get more top picks this year. If you put aside the late round picks Saints are trading their first this year, first next year and second the following for 2 first round picks in this draft. Reading that the Saints 101st pick in this draft was from a compensatory pick, they still have their 3rd, these 2 firsts and a 2nd round pick (49). Going after a QB seems the most likely reason for this move. Good trade from the Eagles perspective, spread out that capital they had, instead of 3 firsts in 2022, its 2 in 2022, 2 in 2023 and 2 seconds in 2024. Edited April 4, 2022 by stevegrab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCajun Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, darin3 said: Paging @rajncajn -- what are the Saints up to here? I really think they liked a WR and Tackle in this draft a lot so they tried to make moves to be early in the draft. So if you look at it if the Saints do well this year and their 1st rounder next year is way in the back of the pack then they won this trade. The value of the Eagles 1st next year from the saints will not be as good at pick 19 that the Saints gained this year. Also, Saints still have a 2nd and 3rd still in the draft. Very front heavy this year. Only missing a few small piece to make this team a playoff contender this year. This draft can be a cheap way to address these issues and then have a lot of money left over to pick up some free agents to help. Saints never been about quantity in the draft. They try to find quality with their picks. This year I hope they can get quality with the quantity they finally have this draft class. Dont get me wrong though some of those picks have fell through but majority of the time the draft picks have done well or phenomenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, CrazyCajun said: I really think they liked a WR and Tackle in this draft a lot so they tried to make moves to be early in the draft. So if you look at it if the Saints do well this year and their 1st rounder next year is way in the back of the pack then they won this trade. The value of the Eagles 1st next year from the saints will not be as good at pick 19 that the Saints gained this year. Also, Saints still have a 2nd and 3rd still in the draft. Very front heavy this year. Only missing a few small piece to make this team a playoff contender this year. This draft can be a cheap way to address these issues and then have a lot of money left over to pick up some free agents to help. Saints never been about quantity in the draft. They try to find quality with their picks. This year I hope they can get quality with the quantity they finally have this draft class. Dont get me wrong though some of those picks have fell through but majority of the time the draft picks have done well or phenomenal. I think they're after Garrett Wilson if it's WR. He fits well with Michael Thomas' skillset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 My highly inaccurate crystal ball is telling me that: Saints are positioning themselves to make another move up for a QB they like this year that can spend a year behind Winston before taking over next year. Eagles still have two 1sts this year that they can use, and now have more ammo next year to move up if they decide they want to move on from Hurts, with next year's QB class projected to be better than this year's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Country said: My highly inaccurate crystal ball is telling me that: Saints are positioning themselves to make another move up for a QB they like this year that can spend a year behind Winston before taking over next year. Honestly I think that is a HUGH mistake, unless they covet Malik Willis. Which is possible, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Good trade for the Birds, next year is a premium QB draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, darin3 said: Honestly I think that is a HUGH mistake, unless they covet Malik Willis. Which is possible, I guess. I wouldn't say I disagree with your assessment, I just find it odd that they would make this kind of move before the draft without a plan of packaging the two picks this year. Adding the extra pick this year in the mid 1st where they already had a selection without an idea of exactly who is there just strikes me as an odd move to make on it's own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I agree with the Cajun. I think they want to go Tackle/WR with these picks. They're both really big needs that they haven't addressed in the offseason and they didn't really have the picks to get potential starters. I could potentially see them taking a QB if someone they really like drops, but I don't think that's the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 minute ago, rajncajn said: I agree with the Cajun. I think they want to go Tackle/WR with these picks. They're both really big needs that they haven't addressed in the offseason and they didn't really have the picks to get potential starters. I could potentially see them taking a QB if someone they really like drops, but I don't think that's the case. I think the Saints got fleeced, and the Eagles still jump them at 15. Everyone knew Roseman would trade at least one of those picks for a 1st next season but I'm shocked the Saints did it now without even knowing who'll be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, League_Champion said: I think the Saints got fleeced, and the Eagles still jump them at 15. Everyone knew Roseman would trade at least one of those picks for a 1st next season but I'm shocked the Saints did it now without even knowing who'll be available. FWIW Maybe Eagles refused to do the trade otherwise, I guess we'll see. I'm hoping the Saints are playing everyone with all the QB interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 34 minutes ago, Big Country said: My highly inaccurate crystal ball is telling me that: Saints are positioning themselves to make another move up for a QB they like this year that can spend a year behind Winston before taking over next year. That was one of my 1st thoughts as well, I was also wondering if they were just playing defense, to stop a team trading up ahead of them - Pitts, det 1nd 1st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, rajncajn said: FWIW Maybe Eagles refused to do the trade otherwise, I guess we'll see. I'm hoping the Saints are playing everyone with all the QB interest. It's not an even trade if next year is considered a better, premium draft, especially for QBs. The Saints should get a nice WR with one of those picks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, millworkguy said: That was one of my 1st thoughts as well, I was also wondering if they were just playing defense, to stop a team trading up ahead of them - Pitts, det 1nd 1st The Saints messed up by not getting #15 from the Eagles to jump them. That could come back to haunt the Saints, especially if the Eagles trade out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, League_Champion said: It's not an even trade if next year is considered a better, premium draft, especially for QBs. The Saints should get a nice WR with one of those picks though. The Saints pick next year wouldn't be high enough to get a QB anyway and even if they traded out of the 1st this year for a pick next year it still wouldn't guarantee them a top 3 pick. Edited April 4, 2022 by rajncajn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Rajn - thoughts on Garrett Wilson and how he would mesh with fellow OSU alum Michael Thomas? I think that would be a nice 1-2 punch for Winston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 #16 Trevor Penning #19 Chris Olave Doable with those picks IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, darin3 said: Rajn - thoughts on Garrett Wilson and how he would mesh with fellow OSU alum Michael Thomas? I think that would be a nice 1-2 punch for Winston. I think he'd be outstanding, but I doubt he'll be there at 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 minute ago, rajncajn said: I think he'd be outstanding, but I doubt he'll be there at 16. Yeah, probably not. Although @DMD thinks he'll go to the Steelers at #20... after Olave at #16 (formerly the Iggles). I dunno. A lot of outlets has him as WR1, but some folks think London is the top dog. It'll be interesting to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, LordOpie said: so, Jameis Winston? What about him? Put him behind a solid line with Michael Thomas, one of the top receivers in this draft and Kamara in the backfield (provided his suspension isn't too long) and Winston will absolutely thrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, LordOpie said: so, Jameis Winston? It has to be. There's no QB in this draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, rajncajn said: What about him? Put him behind a solid line with Michael Thomas, one of the top receivers in this draft and Kamara in the backfield (provided his suspension isn't too long) and Winston will absolutely thrive. Jameis will be just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, rajncajn said: FWIW Maybe Eagles refused to do the trade otherwise, I guess we'll see. I'm hoping the Saints are playing everyone with all the QB interest. The most lopsided trade evah! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, rajncajn said: #16 Trevor Penning #19 Chris Olave Doable with those picks IMO I could see that. It's interesting that Roseman wouldn't let them get up to 15 to leapfrog them, especially since they both need WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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