Broken Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 (edited) They're all ranked within a few slots of each other and they are all fairly young. 1st there's Burleson, it's assumed that he will keep the WR1 spot in MN and put up great numbers. Sure, he filled in nicely when Moss went down, but can this guy really be a top WR1 for a whole season and beyond? Next we have Mike Clayton in TB, he certainly had a great season as far as rookie WRs are concerned. Will a QB roulette in TB put a damper on his parade? Last we have Roy Williams. he didn't play the entire season due to injury and still had great stats. Tack on a few highlight reel catches as well. Is he the real deal or will Harrington stink it up? Will KJ live up to the hype to take pressure off the passing game? Will Rogers ever stay healthy to become the WR2 we know he can? Will Mike Williams excel at the NFL level? Will either of these guys hurt Roy's stats? Many questions not many answers. Lets discuss and compare these 3 WRs. Edited August 4, 2005 by Broken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I see Roy Williams being a monster in the redzone. His ability to go get the ball in a one-on-one and the fact that they have Rogers back (hopefully) on the other side is a plus. And you gotta figure in Mike Williams will probably be in the slot for the inside routes and teams will also want to keep an extra guy or so in the box for KJ. The wildcard is of course Harrington. Clayton would be my last choice, just cause I don't know what's going on with the Bucs offense. Griese was rolling for a while, but I won't put my complete faith in him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I'd take Porter over Burleson in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 (edited) I'd take Porter over Burleson in a heartbeat. 910595[/snapback] Care to tell us why? Also, Porter is not one of the 3 WRs I am trying to discuss. Edited August 4, 2005 by Broken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I'd take Porter over Burleson in a heartbeat. 910595[/snapback] Care to tell us why? 910597[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Care to tell us why? Also, Porter is not one of the 3 WRs I am trying to discuss. 910597[/snapback] You cannot mention Burleson without mentioning Porter. They are like Peanut Butter and Jelly. Which one is the Jelly: Discuss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulOttCarruth Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I'd rank them: 1. Burleson -- Best QB of the three. Most well-established, proven offense. The fact that Moss is gone is a concern, but Burleson showed me enough when Moss was out. 2. Clayton -- Second-best QB. He is the unquestioned go-to-guy in the Bucs passing attack. 1,000 yards as a rookie. He looked every bit like a guy who could be come a top fantasy wideout. 3. Williams -- Williams has the best raw talent of the three IMO. But Harrington is still a big question mark for me. Plus, Detroit has more weapons than Minnesota or Tampa. It remains to be seen who is the leader of the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I'd rank them: 1. Burleson -- Best QB of the three. Most well-established, proven offense. The fact that Moss is gone is a concern, but Burleson showed me enough when Moss was out. 2. Clayton -- Second-best QB. He is the unquestioned go-to-guy in the Bucs passing attack. 1,000 yards as a rookie. He looked every bit like a guy who could be come a top fantasy wideout. 3. Williams -- Williams has the best raw talent of the three IMO. But Harrington is still a big question mark for me. Plus, Detroit has more weapons than Minnesota or Tampa. It remains to be seen who is the leader of the offense. 910699[/snapback] What about Porter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Next we have Mark Clayton in TB, he certainly had a great season as far as rookie WRs are concerned. Will a QB roulette in TB put a damper on his parade? 910569[/snapback] Mark Clayton is a Raven. Michael Clayton is a Buc. Don't make that mistake on draft day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 3. Williams -- Plus, Detroit has more weapons than Minnesota 910699[/snapback] I don't agree here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I don't agree here... 910740[/snapback] I'm a Vikes fan and I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 Mark Clayton is a Raven. Michael Clayton is a Buc. Don't make that mistake on draft day. 910722[/snapback] Oops thinking one thing & typing another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I like Roy Williams, Nate Burleson, and Micheal Clayton in that order. I have Roy just a hair above Nate, but not much. Clayton is not as athletic as Williams, and has a worse QB situation than Burleson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 (edited) I'm a Vikes fan and I do. 910744[/snapback] list them out: Minny: Culpepper Bennett Moore Williams Fason Kleinsasser Wiggins Taylor Robinson Williamson Burleson Campbell Detroit: Jones Bryson Pinner White Williams Williams Rogers Kevin Johnson? Kircus? Pollard Fitzsimmons pretty even. I may be missing someone but I still think that Minny has the edge Edited August 4, 2005 by loaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 list them out: Minny: Culpepper Bennett Moore Williams Fason Kleinsasser Wiggins Taylor Robinson Williamson Burleson Campbell Detroit: Jones Bryson Pinner White Williams Williams Rogers Kevin Johnson? Kircus? Pollard Fitzsimmons pretty even. I may be missing someone but I still think that Minny has the edge 910778[/snapback] Minny has a slight edge but only because of QB at this point, every other position is pro Detroit with the exception of TE which is about even I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulOttCarruth Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 list them out: Minny: Culpepper Bennett Moore Williams Fason Kleinsasser Wiggins Taylor Robinson Williamson Burleson Campbell Detroit: Jones Bryson Pinner White Williams Williams Rogers Kevin Johnson? Kircus? Pollard Fitzsimmons pretty even. I may be missing someone but I still think that Minny has the edge 910778[/snapback] Perhaps I should have specified by saying "legitimate" weapons: Detroit: Jones, Williams, Williams, Rodgers, KJ, and Pollard Minnesota: Bennett, Burleson, and Wiggins Time will tell if we can add Williamson, MRob or another receiver to Minnesota's list. My point is it appears the ball will be spread around more in the Detroit passing game. I could be wrong, but that's my general feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I'd rank them: 1. Burleson -- Best QB of the three. Most well-established, proven offense. The fact that Moss is gone is a concern, but Burleson showed me enough when Moss was out. 2. Clayton -- Second-best QB. He is the unquestioned go-to-guy in the Bucs passing attack. 1,000 yards as a rookie. He looked every bit like a guy who could be come a top fantasy wideout. 3. Williams -- Williams has the best raw talent of the three IMO. But Harrington is still a big question mark for me. Plus, Detroit has more weapons than Minnesota or Tampa. It remains to be seen who is the leader of the offense. 910699[/snapback] This pretty much sums it up for me. My next concern is Clayton's injury. Apparently Clayton has taken much longer to heal than previously expected which in turn has drawn speculation that TB isn't being completely honest about the extent of the injury. Actually, if the injury wasn't a concern, I'd argue that Clayton would be ahead of Burleson, but then throw in the fact that it is Clayton's second year which is usually doom for WRs then we're back to Burleson being #1. Confused yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 You cannot mention Burleson without mentioning Porter. They are like Peanut Butter and Jelly. Which one is the Jelly: Discuss...910619[/snapback] Looks like DMD & I have created a Burleson ~ vs ~ Porter monster But back to the subject; 1) Burleson 2) Clayton 3) Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 1) Burleson 2) Clayton 3) Williams 910927[/snapback] I agree, however, part of the reason is that I just can't get Roy Williams properly valued in my brain. The Detroit running game appears to be on the verge of a jail break. The WR corp is spectacular, meaning Williams might have to share this year. And Harrington's projected success as a QB this season is difficult to get comfy with. I know there's upside in Williams, but I'm more comfortable with Burleson and Clayton because they are easier to gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelhead Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I wanna hear about Porter, but I'd rank them 1) Burleson 2) Clayton 3) Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Plutos Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 (edited) Perhaps I should have specified by saying "legitimate" weapons: Detroit: Jones, Williams, Williams, Rodgers, KJ, and Pollard Minnesota: Bennett, Burleson, and Wiggins Time will tell if we can add Williamson, MRob or another receiver to Minnesota's list. My point is it appears the ball will be spread around more in the Detroit passing game. I could be wrong, but that's my general feeling. 910797[/snapback] Why can we add Mike Williams (who has never caught an NFL pass) but have to "wait and see" on Williamson?? :doah: Plus...it is tough to list all the Detroit WRs when the most important aspect (the QB) is the biggest difference between these two. Edited August 5, 2005 by Funky Plutos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I like Roy Williams but agree that the ball could get spread out. Roy Williamson Burleson Clayton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 And you gotta figure in Mike Williams will probably be in the slot for the inside routes and teams will also want to keep an extra guy or so in the box for KJ. The wildcard is of course Harrington.910593[/snapback] Of the three, I would say Charles Rogers is better suited for the slot. Does anyone know how the Lions are using him so far in training camp? Where's policyvote when you need him. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I hurt myself thinking. I think I Twisted something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulOttCarruth Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Why can we add Mike Williams (who has never caught an NFL pass) but have to "wait and see" on Williamson?? :doah: 911143[/snapback] I believe Williamson is listed as #5 on the depth chart and he's not looked all that good so far. Dropping balls, etc. Williams is already #3 on the depth chart. At this point, I think it's safer to assume that Williams will make more of an impact that Williamson in 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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