cliaz Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/31/she...rest/index.html Was arrested for unlawful conduct because she wouldn't cover up her shirt that was anti-war. Arrested because her shirt was anti-war. Arrested because of her freedom of speech. America is dead now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhippens Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 every citizen's rights in this country are limited at the point that you start infringing on someone else's rights. at that point, your rights don't matter. if she was making a scene or making people feel unsafe, they did the right thing. if not, i would not go as far as say america is dead. please. we have 2 very strong political parties that hate each other. that's how this country got founded. america is very much alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big F'n Dave Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Question for you cliaz. It involves hate. And America. And you. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 She was in the House Gallery. They have right to maintain control. By the way, I think that she is being "used" by Bush haters. This is from a person that thinks Bush is the missing link from Ape to man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoMan Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 She was in the House Gallery. They have right to maintain control. By the way, I think that she is being "used" by Bush haters. This is from a person that thinks Bush is the missing link from Ape to man. 1299009[/snapback] Good info here. Sheehan is a wacko and moran. I sympathize with her for her loss but she's just being used by the left wingers at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumont Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Wearing a shirt is not the same as being disruptive or making people feel unsafe. Lets face it, she was arrested for suspicion that she was going to be disruptive ... That is not American. Period. Whether you agree with her point of view or not. If a right winger was thrown out of a Clinton presidential address because he/she wore a shirt with anti-abortion slogans or pro-god in public school slogans, the current Bushuckses would be going freakin nuts ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 The two faces of the new and even more moranic Democratic Party: http://www.moveshoot.com/forum/viewtopic.p...055fc283652940b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliaz Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 that's all crap. She had not been a distraction at all. They saw her shirt and arrested her. period. Un-american. Doesn't matter if you agree with her point of view or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclones Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 that's all crap. She had not been a distraction at all. They saw her shirt and arrested her. period. Un-american. Doesn't matter if you agree with her point of view or not. 1299023[/snapback] She loses credibility with each passing occurrence. She is going to end up like Marth Burke, insignificant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhippens Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 as in my first post, i'm not going to say whether or not she was doing anything wrong because i don't know. and frankly, neither do you. everything i have read says she was arrested for "unlawful conduct". i'll be the first to admit that she may have been completely innocent because "unlawful conduct" sounds like bullshucks. but like i said in my first post, if she was making people feel unsafe (99 % of our government was in attendence), then they had every right to get rid of her. if not, this is hardly an issue that should be blown up into "america is dead" and that was "unamerican". that's silly. and yes, i do think that somebody going into a democratic rally with a pro-war or anti-abortion shirt would get the same treatment. and it would probably get a bunch of crap spewn about it by all the republican supporters. and i would say the same exact thing if that occured too. if that person was trying to make a statement, fine. if that person was making someone feel unsafe, they should be chucked. i don't care who it is or what party you're from, if you do something to put the spotlight on yourself in a place where you probably aren't welcome, you're going to get spit on. that's american. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumont Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 She loses credibility with each passing occurrence. She is going to end up like Marth Burke, insignificant. 1299037[/snapback] Flying the Americans flag to celebrate the arrest of someone for wearing a shirt with political speech seems, well ..... sad. Very sad. That flag must stand for different things for the two of us ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driveby Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Tell this nut her 15 minutes were up a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Hopefully this is the start of locking up Democrats everywhere. There's still time to head to Mexico or Canada for yous guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclones Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Flying the Americans flag to celebrate the arrest of someone for wearing a shirt with political speech seems, well ..... sad. Very sad. That flag must stand for different things for the two of us ... 1299041[/snapback] Don't blame me, I'm Canadian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliaz Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 as in my first post, i'm not going to say whether or not she was doing anything wrong because i don't know. and frankly, neither do you. everything i have read says she was arrested for "unlawful conduct". i'll be the first to admit that she may have been completely innocent because "unlawful conduct" sounds like bullshucks. but like i said in my first post, if she was making people feel unsafe (99 % of our government was in attendence), then they had every right to get rid of her. if not, this is hardly an issue that should be blown up into "america is dead" and that was "unamerican". that's silly. and yes, i do think that somebody going into a democratic rally with a pro-war or anti-abortion shirt would get the same treatment. and it would probably get a bunch of crap spewn about it by all the republican supporters. and i would say the same exact thing if that occured too. if that person was trying to make a statement, fine. if that person was making someone feel unsafe, they should be chucked. i don't care who it is or what party you're from, if you do something to put the spotlight on yourself in a place where you probably aren't welcome, you're going to get spit on. that's american. 1299039[/snapback] You are making it hard on me to pick an argument when you are lucid in your post. I see your point but if she had a ticket, which she did I believe, and when the news broke lastnight before Bush's speech started she wasn't disorderly (as shown on FOX 5 news) and she is removed because of her t-shirt that is UNAMERICAN and violates her freedom of speech. If she had a ticket, she had every right to be there. And they had no right to remove her. Doesn't matter if it was her against the war at a republican gatherings or some pro-war chick at a democrat gathering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumont Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Don't blame me, I'm Canadian. 1299049[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhippens Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 You are making it hard on me to pick an argument when you are lucid in your post. I see your point but if she had a ticket, which she did I believe, and when the news broke lastnight before Bush's speech started she wasn't disorderly (as shown on FOX 5 news) and she is removed because of her t-shirt that is UNAMERICAN and violates her freedom of speech. If she had a ticket, she had every right to be there. And they had no right to remove her. Doesn't matter if it was her against the war at a republican gatherings or some pro-war chick at a democrat gathering. 1299051[/snapback] agreed. no doubt about it. if they removed her and she was doing nothing wrong, i think they made a mistake. if she was, i think they did the right thing. we aren't dis-agreeing on that. and i really didn't respond to pick a fight. i responded because i think these things get blown up too much and they give us a sense that some great wrong has been done. and that very well may be the case. i just don't think america is dead because a war-protesting person got thrown out of a war-supporting president's speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 the sad thing is that she has a valid point but is so over the top that people are getting sick of her and dont want to see or hear her anymore....shaking hands with chavez was disgraceful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 My heart goes out to this woman for losing her son but I feel there is a time and a place for everything. Whether you agree with him or not or like him etc hes the president of the United States and he is addressing our country . I dont need to be distracted during that. If they were having a memorial for her son and someone showed up wearing pro bush and pro war gear would that be unamerican ? Losing a child to a war that she feels is unjust has to be gauling to this woman and im not insensitive to that but that doesnt give her the right to do whatever she wants IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big F'n Dave Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 If they were having a memorial for her son and someone showed up wearing pro bush and pro war gear would that be unamerican ? 1299083[/snapback] But would they be arrested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliaz Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 agreed. no doubt about it. if they removed her and she was doing nothing wrong, i think they made a mistake. if she was, i think they did the right thing. we aren't dis-agreeing on that. and i really didn't respond to pick a fight. i responded because i think these things get blown up too much and they give us a sense that some great wrong has been done. and that very well may be the case. i just don't think america is dead because a war-protesting person got thrown out of a war-supporting president's speech.1299060[/snapback] See, it's just not that. Bush he has surrounded himself with yes men and he does not see the world for the individual countries they are. He is a crooked man, not that anyone in office is honest but still.... I hate republicans almost as much as I hate democrats..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 See, it's just not that. Bush he has surrounded himself with yes men and he does not see the world for the individual countries they are. He is a crooked man, not that anyone in office is honest but still.... I hate republicans almost as much as I hate democrats..... 1299093[/snapback] that is the main thing.....all these guys are crooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 ...shaking hands with chavez was disgraceful! 1299065[/snapback] I shook hands with our Chavez.....nothing disgraceful about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 If they had just let her sit there and kept their mouths shut, would any of us even know that Cindy loohoo was there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driveby Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 See, it's just not that. Bush he has surrounded himself with yes men and he does not see the world for the individual countries they are. He is a crooked man, not that anyone in office is honest but still.... I hate republicans almost as much as I hate democrats..... 1299093[/snapback] Republican booted too It's not what the t-shirt said, it violated a rule in the chamber about protests or political statements or something like that. In any event, she's a fruitcake. Why you have your undies in such a bunch over this transparent stunt is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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