wiegie Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 i just watched the votes come in live. as bad as this bill turned out to be, this had to be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I guess I'm happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Is there a list yet of who voted for it and who voted against it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 What a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 i just watched the votes come in live. as bad as this bill turned out to be, this had to be done Poor legislation has no excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 This does not make me happy. But since the voice of the American people is drowned out by the voice of American corporations, I guess what I think really doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controller Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Interesting that the DJIA started heading down in the last five or ten minutes. I will never understand anything about the financial markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) The pork part of this farce literally makes me sick to my stomach. Edited October 3, 2008 by Chief Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tboogs Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 The pork part of this farce literally makes me sick to my stomach. I agree. this is ridiculous...this is only a short term fix. Our economy is F*cked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I hope every single one of them gets kicked out of office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Wiegie - I read that there was a rider on this to mandate mental health coverage on insurance plans - any truth to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I'm still not sure if it was the bail out was the right thing to do. I'm not saying it is wrong, I'm just not sure it is right either. On one hand I hate all government intervention, and feel that a lot of the mess we are are in now is because of government intervention with Fannie and Fredddie. On the other hand, if this actually works, which is still a big if, it could end up saving us all a lot of money in the long term. If it fails it will cost us all a lot more money than it would have if we would have just let nature run it's course. Frankly I don't pretend to be knowlegable enough in this area to know if it will work or just delay the inevitable. I know that I am disgusted with all the politicians that voted for this bill both in the house and the senate, for allowing pork to be added to it. Those that added the pork should be outed so the whole nation knows who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I agree. this is ridiculous...this is only a short term fix. Our economy is F*cked! Not really. We'll continue to print dollars until they have no value. Then our debt and deficit spending will be meaningless. 700,000,000,000 dollars = 1 Yuan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controller Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 700,000,000,000 dollars = 1 Yuan And if we address the problem of border security, we won't have to worry about all of the Yuans that are sneaking into the country. Oh, "Juan's"??? Nevermind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar Magnolia Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I'm still not sure if it was the bail out was the right thing to do. I'm not saying it is wrong, I'm just not sure it is right either. On one hand I hate all government intervention, and feel that a lot of the mess we are are in now is because of government intervention with Fannie and Fredddie. On the other hand, if this actually works, which is still a big if, it could end up saving us all a lot of money in the long term. If it fails it will cost us all a lot more money than it would have if we would have just let nature run it's course. Frankly I don't pretend to be knowlegable enough in this area to know if it will work or just delay the inevitable. I know that I am disgusted with all the politicians that voted for this bill both in the house and the senate, for allowing pork to be added to it. Those that added the pork should be outed so the whole nation knows who they are. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I know that I am disgusted with all the politicians... You could have stopped right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Why is everyone hating on pork? I LOVE PORK!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Is there a list yet of who voted for it and who voted against it? http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll681.xml H R 1424 YEA-AND-NAY 3-Oct-2008 1:22 PM QUESTION: On Motion to Concur in Senate Amendments BILL TITLE: Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 Yeas Nays PRES NV Democratic 172 63 Republican 91 108 Independent TOTALS 263 171 ---- YEAS 263 --- Abercrombie Ackerman Alexander Allen Andrews Arcuri Baca Bachus Baird Baldwin Barrett (SC) Bean Berkley Berman Berry Biggert Bishop (GA) Bishop (NY) Blunt Boehner Bonner Bono Mack Boozman Boren Boswell Boucher Boustany Boyd (FL) Brady (PA) Brady (TX) Braley (IA) Brown (SC) Brown, Corrine Buchanan Calvert Camp (MI) Campbell (CA) Cannon Cantor Capps Capuano Cardoza Carnahan Carson Castle Clarke Cleaver Clyburn Coble Cohen Cole (OK) Conaway Cooper Costa Cramer Crenshaw Crowley Cubin Cuellar Cummings Davis (AL) Davis (CA) Davis (IL) Davis, Tom DeGette DeLauro Dent Dicks Dingell Donnelly Doyle Dreier Edwards (MD) Edwards (TX) Ehlers Ellison Ellsworth Emanuel Emerson Engel Eshoo Etheridge Everett Fallin Farr Fattah Ferguson Fossella Foster Frank (MA) Frelinghuysen Gerlach Giffords Gilchrest Gonzalez Gordon Granger Green, Al Gutierrez Hall (NY) Hare Harman Hastings (FL) Herger Higgins Hinojosa Hirono Hobson Hoekstra Holt Honda Hooley Hoyer Inglis (SC) Israel Jackson (IL) Jackson-Lee (TX) Johnson, E. B. Kanjorski Kennedy Kildee Kilpatrick Kind King (NY) Kirk Klein (FL) Kline (MN) Knollenberg Kuhl (NY) LaHood Langevin Larsen (WA) Larson (CT) Lee Levin Lewis (CA) Lewis (GA) Lewis (KY) Loebsack Lofgren, Zoe Lowey Lungren, Daniel E. Mahoney (FL) Maloney (NY) Markey Marshall Matsui McCarthy (NY) McCollum (MN) McCrery McGovern McHugh McKeon McNerney McNulty Meek (FL) Meeks (NY) Melancon Miller (NC) Miller, Gary Miller, George Mitchell Mollohan Moore (KS) Moore (WI) Moran (VA) Murphy (CT) Murphy, Patrick Murtha Myrick Nadler Neal (MA) Oberstar Obey Olver Ortiz Pallone Pascrell Pastor Pelosi Perlmutter Peterson (PA) Pickering Pomeroy Porter Price (NC) Pryce (OH) Putnam Radanovich Rahall Ramstad Rangel Regula Reyes Reynolds Richardson Rogers (AL) Rogers (KY) Ros-Lehtinen Ross Ruppersberger Rush Ryan (OH) Ryan (WI) Sarbanes Saxton Schakowsky Schiff Schmidt Schwartz Scott (GA) Sessions Sestak Shadegg Shays Shuster Simpson Sires Skelton Slaughter Smith (TX) Smith (WA) Snyder Solis Souder Space Speier Spratt Sullivan Sutton Tancredo Tanner Tauscher Terry Thompson (CA) Thornberry Tiberi Tierney Towns Tsongas Upton Van Hollen Velázquez Walden (OR) Walsh (NY) Wamp Wasserman Schultz Waters Watson Watt Waxman Weiner Welch (VT) Weldon (FL) Weller Wexler Wilson (NM) Wilson (OH) Wilson (SC) Wolf Woolsey Wu Yarmuth ---- NAYS 171 --- Aderholt Akin Altmire Bachmann Barrow Bartlett (MD) Barton (TX) Becerra Bilbray Bilirakis Bishop (UT) Blackburn Blumenauer Boyda (KS) Broun (GA) Brown-Waite, Ginny Burgess Burton (IN) Butterfield Buyer Capito Carney Carter Castor Cazayoux Chabot Chandler Childers Clay Conyers Costello Courtney Culberson Davis (KY) Davis, David Davis, Lincoln Deal (GA) DeFazio Delahunt Diaz-Balart, L. Diaz-Balart, M. Doggett Doolittle Drake Duncan English (PA) Feeney Filner Flake Forbes Fortenberry Foxx Franks (AZ) Gallegly Garrett (NJ) Gillibrand Gingrey Gohmert Goode Goodlatte Graves Green, Gene Grijalva Hall (TX) Hastings (WA) Hayes Heller Hensarling Herseth Sandlin Hill Hinchey Hodes Holden Hulshof Hunter Inslee Issa Jefferson Johnson (GA) Johnson (IL) Johnson, Sam Jones (NC) Jordan Kagen Kaptur Keller King (IA) Kingston Kucinich Lamborn Lampson Latham LaTourette Latta Linder Lipinski LoBiondo Lucas Lynch Mack Manzullo Marchant Matheson McCarthy (CA) McCaul (TX) McCotter McDermott McHenry McIntyre McMorris Rodgers Mica Michaud Miller (FL) Miller (MI) Moran (KS) Murphy, Tim Musgrave Napolitano Neugebauer Nunes Paul Payne Pearce Pence Peterson (MN) Petri Pitts Platts Poe Price (GA) Rehberg Reichert Renzi Rodriguez Rogers (MI) Rohrabacher Roskam Rothman Roybal-Allard Royce Salazar Sali Sánchez, Linda T. Sanchez, Loretta Scalise Scott (VA) Sensenbrenner Serrano Shea-Porter Sherman Shimkus Shuler Smith (NE) Smith (NJ) Stark Stearns Stupak Taylor Thompson (MS) Tiahrt Turner Udall (CO) Udall (NM) Visclosky Walberg Walz (MN) Westmoreland Whitfield (KY) Wittman (VA) Young (AK) Young (FL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Is there a list yet of who voted for it and who voted against it? HR1424 Out of the 8 AZ senators (4D and 4R), 3 Dems and 1 Rep voted for it. At least the guy in mydistrict voted against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 the end of the modern world is upon us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I'm not smart enough to know if this inevitable measure was the right move or not. From my philosophical perspective, it sucks a big fat one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 That Gubment teet just gets sweeter and sweeter, don't it? Suckle it, America, suckle it good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 And the Dow promptly takes a 200 point dive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I'm not smart enough to know if this inevitable measure was the right move or not. From my philosophical perspective, it sucks a big fat one. I'm in agreement with you. For some reason, I am of the opinion that the only way the American people are EVER going to learn anything, is if they go through the consequences along with the companies that are enablers of questionable business practices. The federal government is just way overstepping its intended use, and not for the better, in my opinion. They are the ultimate enablers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I'm not smart enough to know if this inevitable measure was the right move or not. From my philosophical perspective, it sucks a big fat one. Basically they screamed the Sky is Falling and stole $700 billion from taxpayers. The rest is just complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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