NAUgrad Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I thought once you caught it and got over it, you were then immune to getting the H1N1 again. Is that true? I thought the same for a regular flu bug or cold. It would make sense that the flu bug mutates as you can get it multiple times, but isn't H1N1 straight forward and remain the same during the year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 A couple of things: 1) My cousin's 24-year-old daughter-in-law is clinging to life in Oregon today due to H1N1 and is not expected to make it. She is a widow (her husband, my cousin's son, died in a motorcycle accident two years ago) and she has a 3-year-old daughter. It is truly tragic. She was fine one day, and then got a fever, and then she got pneumonia in both lungs. Please pray for her. 2) Joseph Heller, author of Catch-22, had Guillain-Barre syndrome in 1981 and wrote a book about it "No Laughing Matter" - a very good read and it will scare the sh!t out of you. This is very sad. I will pray for her. The secretary of my daughter’s school sounds like the exact same story as far as the illness goes. She was a little ill one day, had a full blown fever the next, now she is in the hospital with what they are calling double pneumonia. It really does sound bad for this woman as well. did these women have any other previous conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controller Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 did these women have any other previous conditions. Not that I am aware of. Of course, she may have been suffering from depression to some extent due to losing her husband two years earlier, but no other medical conditions that I know of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 did these women have any other previous conditions. Not that I know of. Today they are saying that she is in pretty bad shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliaz Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 A couple of things: 1) My cousin's 24-year-old daughter-in-law is clinging to life in Oregon today due to H1N1 and is not expected to make it. She is a widow (her husband, my cousin's son, died in a motorcycle accident two years ago) and she has a 3-year-old daughter. It is truly tragic. She was fine one day, and then got a fever, and then she got pneumonia in both lungs. Please pray for her. 2) Joseph Heller, author of Catch-22, had Guillain-Barre syndrome in 1981 and wrote a book about it "No Laughing Matter" - a very good read and it will scare the sh!t out of you. Sorry I missed this earlier - thoughts prayers and good vibes sent to your family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Because the seasonal flu mutates multiple times in a season, you receive vaccinations or flu shots at the beginning of the flu season. These shots hold [Chargerz you’d have to speak on this or correct me if I am wrong] dozens if not hundreds of different viral RNA/DNA from the different types of flues running around from the previous flu season. Since it mutates so fast and easily, a flu vaccination will almost never protect you through a whole season because new ones are floating around. You are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I thought once you caught it and got over it, you were then immune to getting the H1N1 again. Is that true? I thought the same for a regular flu bug or cold. It would make sense that the flu bug mutates as you can get it multiple times, but isn't H1N1 straight forward and remain the same during the year? In post #72 of this thread cliaz answers these questions very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I thought once you caught it and got over it, you were then immune to getting the H1N1 again. Is that true? Not according to my daughter’s pediatrician. She is a confirmed case and he still urges us to get her vaccinated in mid November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 sorry to re-hash this, but I called my kids pediatrician today and he said he is recommending we don't get them vaccinated because it is a live virus, this is the mist I'm talking about, which is all that is avaialable around here. My 16 month old wouldn't have been eligible for it anyway, only for 2-5 yr olds. Then my friend from another part of the state called her doc to schedule vaccinations for her kiddos, they said she can only get the vaccine if she's on medicaid and that they have run out of the batches slated for the insured/cash paying patients??? wth???!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 My SIL is a ICU nurse, she says she has 7 patients on ventilators right now due to the pig virus. Scary stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controller Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 UPDATE: My cousin's 24-year-old daughter-in-law was given some drugs as a last resort (not sure if they were experimental drugs or not) and they worked. Her double-pneumonia cleared up and her fever broke and she came out of her coma. Now the doctors in Oregon are saying that she is going to be OK (eventually - she has a LONG road to go to get back to normal) and the doctors are calling her the "miracle woman". Thanks to all of you who included her in your thoughts & prayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Got my 4 year old vaccinated with the shot today. Have to go back in 30 days for the second round when hopefully can also get for the little one who will be 6 months old then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 UPDATE: My cousin's 24-year-old daughter-in-law was given some drugs as a last resort (not sure if they were experimental drugs or not) and they worked. Her double-pneumonia cleared up and her fever broke and she came out of her coma. Now the doctors in Oregon are saying that she is going to be OK (eventually - she has a LONG road to go to get back to normal) and the doctors are calling her the "miracle woman". Thanks to all of you who included her in your thoughts & prayers. AWESOME Heard something about a couple more deaths reported today and was thinking about her wondering what happened. Continued prayers for a full recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 UPDATE: My cousin's 24-year-old daughter-in-law was given some drugs as a last resort (not sure if they were experimental drugs or not) and they worked. Her double-pneumonia cleared up and her fever broke and she came out of her coma. Now the doctors in Oregon are saying that she is going to be OK (eventually - she has a LONG road to go to get back to normal) and the doctors are calling her the "miracle woman". Thanks to all of you who included her in your thoughts & prayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I don't get it. How is the live virus a better solution than taking a chance on getting sick. Isn't the live virus going to automatically give you the flu?! Sounds like the doctors made a huge mistake that you caught there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I don't get it. How is the live virus a better solution than taking a chance on getting sick. Isn't the live virus going to automatically give you the flu?! Obviously Chargerz can better answer, but if I remember what I have read correctly, it is indee a live virus, but it is either in such a small level or has been modified such that it triggers the bodies immune system without actually giving you the flu. essentially, it is an extremely mild variant that still triggers the bodies natural defenses to help prevent getting ill from the full blown virus. of course, I may have totally misunderstood what I read, and I don;t recall where it was I read that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 yes, paging Chargerz...my 35 yr old friend got it a few wks ago, when they tested him, they escorted him out of the back door of the clinic...well, it wasn't so bad for him he says, he was good to go in a couple of days....others aren't so lucky. Glad for Controller all is well now too. I heard swine flu was a hybrid of human flu and bird flu, maybe other strains as well....maybe I'll just get the shot so I won't spread it to my kiddos. But, my peditrician isn't administering it to his patients for reasons stated above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) sorry to re-hash this, but I called my kids pediatrician today and he said he is recommending we don't get them vaccinated because it is a live virus, this is the mist I'm talking about, which is all that is avaialable around here. My 16 month old wouldn't have been eligible for it anyway, only for 2-5 yr olds. This makes no sense to me. Read my comment below. UPDATE: My cousin's 24-year-old daughter-in-law was given some drugs as a last resort (not sure if they were experimental drugs or not) and they worked. Her double-pneumonia cleared up and her fever broke and she came out of her coma. Now the doctors in Oregon are saying that she is going to be OK (eventually - she has a LONG road to go to get back to normal) and the doctors are calling her the "miracle woman". Thanks to all of you who included her in your thoughts & prayers. GREAT news!! Obviously Chargerz can better answer, but if I remember what I have read correctly, it is indee a live virus, but it is either in such a small level or has been modified such that it triggers the bodies immune system without actually giving you the flu. This is correct. The virus is alive but no longer has the ability to create sickness, just the immune response that protects the patient. All of my pediatric colleagues are recommending that children get the vaccination either by nasal mist in the little ones or injection in the older kids because the risks associated with the vaccine are so low and the benefit is very great. Edited October 29, 2009 by Chargerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 This makes no sense to me. Read my comment below. GREAT news!! This is correct. The virus is alive but no longer has the ability to create sickness, just the immune response that protects the patient. All of my pediatric colleagues are recommending that children get the vaccination either by nasal mist in the little ones or injection in the older kids because the risks associated with the vaccine are so low and the benefit is very great. fwiw, my wife's ob-gyn is recommending that she DEFINITELY get the shot because she is pregnant, but that she NOT get the nasal mist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 fwiw, my wife's ob-gyn is recommending that she DEFINITELY get the shot because she is pregnant, but that she NOT get the nasal mist. That's right. The nasal mist is not recommended for pregnant or immuno-compromised patients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) FWIW, my kids pediatriciant recommends getting the vaccination also. My kids and wife got the shot on Tuesday. I have not. Lot's of this going around here in SE Michigan, kids and adults. Edited October 30, 2009 by chiefjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 my little guy got it today. the peds say dont get the live one for youngsters. my son was not pleased when we walked into the gym and i told him it was shot time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 well, it seems that a 34 year-old GVSU student in good health got H1N1, he was doing fine, and then all of a sudden he came down with encephalitus and died. Meanwhile, there is no vaccine available anywhere for my pregnant wife or for my 2 and 3 year-olds. I just got off the phone with our ob-gyn office and they said that they expect to get a shipment of the vaccine in sometime this week, but they do not think it will be anywhere near enough to go around for all of their pregnant patients and so it will just be a matter of pure luck if my wife is able to get the shot. :mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) They closed all schools in our county last week for the entire week after a student died. The news said there were hundreds of absences so they decided to just shut them down since normal teaching wasn't possible with all the missing students. They figured it was better to be safe and let the virus run it's course instead of keeping the cycle going by passing it on from one kid to the next. And disinfect the schools. There are no vaccines around her anywhere from what I'm hearing. Troller, glad to hear he's pulling through. Edited November 2, 2009 by TimC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 well, it seems that a 34 year-old GVSU student in good health got H1N1, he was doing fine, and then all of a sudden he came down with encephalitus and died. Meanwhile, there is no vaccine available anywhere for my pregnant wife or for my 2 and 3 year-olds. I just got off the phone with our ob-gyn office and they said that they expect to get a shipment of the vaccine in sometime this week, but they do not think it will be anywhere near enough to go around for all of their pregnant patients and so it will just be a matter of pure luck if my wife is able to get the shot. :mad: My wife kept calling the Urgent Care places. She found one in Boulder that was getting 100 doses, and she took the kids down there 45 minutes before it opened and stood in line, and they were down to the last 25 doses when they got in. Just for the kids and pregnant ladies. Nobody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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