General Itals Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I don't think that is true ... it is my understanding that a WR has to complete the play ... that means maintaining control of the ball all the way to the ground. They had the head of officials, Mike Pereria, on right after the play, answering questions from Brennamen and Billick. They got close, but never asked him that direct question. From how I've seen calls made before, I believe my interpretation is right. Hopefully some light can be shed on this situation. Big John? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfamdelfam Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I don't think that is true ... it is my understanding that a WR has to complete the play ... that means maintaining control of the ball all the way to the ground. I understand that rule, but I thought that was only for non-touchdown catches, as once the ball passes the goal line it's a touchdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrappy1 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Any rule that considers that not to be a catch is a very bad, stupid rule, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Anyone see Wes Welker's 2nd TD? How does it not apply theer as well? Bulldiaper dirt call . . LKions got robbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Which is exactly what he did. It was the act of slamming the ball to the turf that forced it out. Here is the deal ... you can't leave the call in the hands of the officials. He has to FINISH the play AND THEN celebrate. The ref.s aren't going to try to figure out WHY the ball came out on the ground ... they just see it come out. Megatron made a stupid mistake. Whether or not the rule makes sense is entirely a different topic ... fact is the rule exists and the players have to be aware of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussMan Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I'll be the first to say that the Lions have deserved to lose the past few years.. but that was a major RIP OFF !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfamdelfam Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Anyone see Wes Welker's 2nd TD? How does it not apply theer as well? Bulldiaper dirt call . . LKions got robbed exactly, once the ball crosses the plain it's a touchdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Doesn't a thread like this pop up every year on the same type of play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Right call. Horrible rule, but the call was correct as the rule is concerned. Exactly. Stoopid rule and inconsistent w/ how an RB would be judged, but it's a rule. I don't think that is true ... it is my understanding that a WR has to complete the play ... that means maintaining control of the ball all the way to the ground. If he tucks the ball away, they win. BS rule, but it's a rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I understand that rule, but I thought that was only for non-touchdown catches, as once the ball passes the goal line it's a touchdown. Once the ball crosses the plane it is a touchdown ... as long as the player has control of the ball prior to crossing the plane. Cases where the ball is thrown into the endzone the player has to establish control of the ball ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 They had the head of officials, Mike Pereria, on right after the play, answering questions from Brennamen and Billick. They got close, but never asked him that direct question. From how I've seen calls made before, I believe my interpretation is right. Hopefully some light can be shed on this situation. Big John? Yep, all the way even if he would be down under any other circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfamdelfam Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Once the ball crosses the plane it is a touchdown ... as long as the player has control of the ball prior to crossing the plane. Cases where the ball is thrown into the endzone the player has to establish control of the ball ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND. that's a double standard, Johnson had possession and both feet in, that's a touchdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I haven't seen the play. But I think that Lions broadcaster Jim Brandstatter was crying while he interviewed Calvin Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csrulz16 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 If its Jerry Rice, thats ruled a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 hmm, why was Lance Moore's 2 point conversion in the SB any different? This rule is a joke, and is enforced one day and not the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC123 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Once the ball crosses the plane it is a touchdown ... as long as the player has control of the ball prior to crossing the plane. Cases where the ball is thrown into the endzone the player has to establish control of the ball ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND. Good point. And you are right. And personally, I believed he did. But it would not have killed him to hang on to it after hitting the ground which I believe he could have. But anyways, what's done is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I guess I'm used to the rule. Once Megatron let the ball go, I thought to myself that he blew it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 I guess I'm used to the rule. Once Megatron let the ball go, I thought to myself that he blew it. +1. Knew immediately he'd (in effect) dropped it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Stupid rule that is not called consistently. And, I still maintain that the "call on the field" was a touchdown, unless the call made by the official closest to the play doesn't count, for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csrulz16 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 How is this a TD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Once the ball crosses the plane it is a touchdown ... as long as the player has control of the ball prior to crossing the plane. Cases where the ball is thrown into the endzone the player has to establish control of the ball ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND. His feet, knee, legs, butt, and other hand were on the ground. The ball didn't come out of his hand until it, too, hit the ground. At what point is "all the way to the ground?" Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csrulz16 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLljlP3NlQM Calvin's "PROCESS" looks alot more complete than Moore's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 His feet, knee, legs, butt, and other hand were on the ground. The ball didn't come out of his hand until it, too, hit the ground. At what point is "all the way to the ground?" Peace policy It looks like a TD to me too ... my point is that players have to be smart and not give the ref.s the opportunity to make a call. If Calvin simply holds onto the ball there is no question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csrulz16 Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 It looks like a TD to me too ... my point is that players have to be smart and not give the ref.s the opportunity to make a call. If Calvin simply holds onto the ball there is no question. He put the ball on the ground cuz that was it, TD, GAME OVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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