Furd Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Deion who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Deion who? Branch I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilly Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Great stat. To me, this just proves one thing: get a qb who can deliver the ball accurately, and you don't need all pro receivers, just someone who can run the correct route and catch the ball. And what does this mean? Unless you are in a position to draft a can't miss, blue-chip receiver, don't waste a first-rounder on them and draft linemen instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Only took 85 passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 " Its a story of a man named Brady ....." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankk Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Just think of the numbers they would have if they had a truly great quarterback like Mike Vick throwing them the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Only took 85 passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelerMurf Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 (edited) Only took 85 passes. Edited January 16, 2007 by SteelerMurf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabuffbills Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Just think of the numbers they would have if they had a truly great quarterback like Mike Vick throwing them the ball. yea, it probably would have been more like 5 catches, 60 yards, 0 TDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 (edited) Only took 85 passes. And . . ? I don't have targeting information handy, but they both have seemed pretty efficient to me, so I don't think that you can demean their acheivements because of the number of Brady's attempts (and Brady does spread the ball around a lot.) Besides, I have never heard anybody criticize a receiver because he had a lot of catches. After 2 playoff games, Gaffney, who couldn't start on the Houston Texans, has 50 more receiving yards than the #2 guy, and Caldwell is in the top 5. I find that surprising. Given that you think that the caliber of wide receivers has a huge impact on a team's passing performance, I'm surprised at your response. Edited January 16, 2007 by Furd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 hmmm.... what do reche caldwell and jabar gaffney have in common? Yea, they're both Florida Gators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysight Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 So isn't Chad Jackson. That's strange...I wonder if there's a reason behind this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllThingsBillBelichick Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Add Tom Brady to those WR stats and you got a 4th Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Add Tom Brady to those WR stats and you got a 4th Super Bowl. Ugly Tuna ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Just think of the numbers they would have if they had a truly great quarterback like Mike Vick throwing them the ball. He's the most exciting player in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 So isn't Chad Jackson. That's strange...I wonder if there's a reason behind this. Matbe because Tom BRady hates The Ohio State? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 And . . ? I don't have targeting information handy, but they both have seemed pretty efficient to me, so I don't think that you can demean their acheivements because of the number of Brady's attempts (and Brady does spread the ball around a lot.) Besides, I have never heard anybody criticize a receiver because he had a lot of catches. After 2 playoff games, Gaffney, who couldn't start on the Houston Texans, has 50 more receiving yards than the #2 guy, and Caldwell is in the top 5. I find that surprising. Given that you think that the caliber of wide receivers has a huge impact on a team's passing performance, I'm surprised at your response. If a QB throws 85 passes in just two games, then there darn well better be a coupla' WR's on that team with some yardage. Throw enough mud & some is bound to stick. But hey, if you wanna crown their a$$, then you go ahead & crown 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 If a QB throws 85 passes in just two games, then there darn well better be a coupla' WR's on that team with some yardage. Throw enough mud & some is bound to stick. But hey, if you wanna crown their a$$, then you go ahead & crown 'em. Crown them? I said surprised. Man, either you have no reading comprension skills or you're fishing. Or maybe worse, which isn't out of the question given your zealous defense of a certain mediocre QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 If a QB throws 85 passes in just two games, then there darn well better be a coupla' WR's on that team with some yardage. Throw enough mud & some is bound to stick. But hey, if you wanna crown their a$$, then you go ahead & crown 'em. Gaffney 18 catches, 207 yards, 1 TD Caldwell 12 catches, 130 yards, 1 TD Brown 7 catches, 65 yards Watson 5 catches, 33 yards, 1 TD Graham 3 catches, 39 yards, 1 TD Faulk 1 catch, 7 yards, 1 TD Dillion 1 catch, 0 yards 85 passes, 49 completions Vick never gets "that much mud to stick" ... oh wait ... every 3 years or so he has a couple of games where that much mud sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Add Tom Brady to those WR stats and you got a 4th Super Bowl. Is this Dynasty going to start back up again in 2057. Because until then, this team has no shot at winning another SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Gaffney 18 catches, 207 yards, 1 TD Caldwell 12 catches, 130 yards, 1 TD Brown 7 catches, 65 yards Watson 5 catches, 33 yards, 1 TD Graham 3 catches, 39 yards, 1 TD Faulk 1 catch, 7 yards, 1 TD Dillion 1 catch, 0 yards 85 passes, 49 completions Vick never gets "that much mud to stick" ... oh wait ... every 3 years or so he has a couple of games where that much mud sticks. It never ceases to amaze me how you're able to get a Vick jab into just about any thread, regardless of the subject matter. It's a real art, however your obsession is probably a little unhealthy & definitely over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Crown them? I said surprised. Man, either you have no reading comprension skills or you're fishing. Or maybe worse, which isn't out of the question given your zealous defense of a certain mediocre QB. No need to try & read anything more into what I said, than what I said Furd. 330+ yds & 2 TD's to a teams #1 & #2 WR's on 85 passes doesn't exactly get me all warm & fuzzy. I'd only be surprised if the WR's DID NOT have those kind of numbers, considering the sheer volume of passes. Give Brady Harrison & Wayne & I think we'd see around 450+ yards & 5+ TD's on that number of passes. But hey, that's just me. If you're impressed, far be it for me to rain on your parade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Given the history and career to date of gaffney and caldwell and the fact they are no. 1 and no .2 ( coverage should be better than it has been when they were # 3 or # 4 receivers on their past teams ), I would say their numbers currntly are surpeisingly good .... Brady helps a tonb with this imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Given the history and career to date of gaffney and caldwell and the fact they are no. 1 and no .2 ( coverage should be better than it has been when they were # 3 or # 4 receivers on their past teams ), I would say their numbers currntly are surpeisingly good .... Brady helps a tonb with this imo I'd agree if the Pats were a team with avg TE's. But they've got a few good ones who help loosen up the coverage on the WR's. Throw in crusty yet trusty Troy Brown, plus the lack of respect most DB's probably have for Gaffney & Caldwell & I just don't see them getting the tight coverage most WR #1 & #2's recieve. I could very well be wrong, but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 No need to try & read anything more into what I said, than what I said Furd. 330+ yds & 2 TD's to a teams #1 & #2 WR's on 85 passes doesn't exactly get me all warm & fuzzy. I'd only be surprised if the WR's DID NOT have those kind of numbers, considering the sheer volume of passes. Give Brady Harrison & Wayne & I think we'd see around 450+ yards & 5+ TD's on that number of passes. But hey, that's just me. If you're impressed, far be it for me to rain on your parade. In 2 games Peyton Manning has thrown the ball 68 times completing 45 of them for 438 yards. Harrison and Wayne combined for 180 yards on 16 receptions with 1 TDs. So Harrison + Wayne accounted for 35.5% of the receptions and 41.1% of the receiving yardage. In 2 games Tom Brady has thrown the ball 85 times completing 49 of them for 492 yards. Gaffney and Caldwell combined for 337 yards on 30 receptions with 2 TDs. So Gaffney + Caldwell accounted for 61.2% of the receptions and 68.5% of the receiving yardage. You will note that Brady had only FOUR more completions than Peyton Manning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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