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HAG age lists ...


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HOT	rocknrobn26        08/26/29  77      HOT	BeachBum          	06/28/38  68      HOT	jackshi17          11/26/41  64      HOT	CSEstreet          09/23/45  60      HOT	skylive5          	02/07/46  60      HOT	BearcatGreg        01/20/48  58      HOT	borge007          	10/28/48  57      HOT	Chargerz          	09/26/49  56      HOT	Randall            04/18/50  56      HOT	stoperat          	10/30/51  54      HOT	aqualung          	11/15/52  53      HOT	alchico            12/23/53  52      -------------------------------------------------GNL	JoJoTheWebToedboy  05/24/54  52    	-2	2005GNL	Slayer            	11/10/55  50    	0	2006GNL	Ursa Majoris      	02/09/57  49    	1	2007GNL	BillyBalata        10/13/58  47    	3	2009GNL	georgemoe          06/28/59  47    	3	2009GNL	Nsab              	01/25/61  45    	5	2011GNL	ABearWithFurniture	02/21/61  45    	5	2011GNL	devilwoman        	08/22/62  44    	6	2012GNL	Down Goes Frazia  	08/23/62  44    	6	2012GNL	SteelBunz          02/27/63  43    	7	2013GNL	Grits and Shins    04/24/63  43    	7	2013GNL	Jrick35            08/18/63  43    	7	2013-------------------------------------------------PRT	TimC              	09/17/66  39    	1	2007PRT	Yukon Cornelius    11/20/66  39    	1	2007PRT	gilthorp          	10/24/67  38    	2	2008PRT	Puddy              05/16/68  38    	2	2008PRT	Bier Meister      	05/12/69  37    	3	2009PRT	isleseeya          06/07/70  36    	4	2010PRT	Hugh One          	01/09/71  35    	5	2011PRT	Caveman_Nick      	10/22/71  34    	6	2012PRT	Selly              02/25/72  34    	6	2012PRT	johnsonk2          08/18/72  34    	6	2012PRT	Marauders11        10/31/72  33    	7	2013PRT	Squeegiebo        	01/26/73  33    	7	2013PRT	tonyr0802          08/02/74  32    	8	2014-------------------------------------------------NVN	twiley            	08/04/75  31    	-1	2005NVN	Skrappy1          	??/??/??  31    	-1	2005NVN	miner              02/11/76  30    	0	2006NVN	SuperBalla        	07/21/76  30    	0	2006NVN	Whiskey Pimp      	03/08/77  29    	1	2007NVN	BiggieFries        05/01/77  29    	1	2007NVN	soopanuts          06/01/77  29    	1	2007NVN	Jumpin Johnies    	10/27/77  28    	2	2008NVN	Los Giagantes      12/29/77  28    	2	2008NVN	jelap1            	01/23/78  28    	2	2008NVN	juanruiz13        	06/13/78  28    	2	2008NVN	budlitebrad        05/12/83  23    	7	2013

 

 

Ages above are the ages of the owners when the season starts in September ... the year is the last season that owner can play in his league. Looks like only three owners are aged out of their leagues ... JoJo, twiley and Skrappy1.

 

Obviously owners that age out of Generation Lost will have to wait for one of the current HOT owners to retire as there is no upper age on the HOT bracket.

 

After the 2005 season

JoJo will age out of GNL, will get skylive5's spot in HOT

twiley will age out of NVN, will get Hugh One's spot in PRT

Skrappy1 will age out of NVN, will have to wait for an opening in PRT

 

Waiting lists going into 2006

PRT

1. Skrappy1

 

After the 2006 season

Slayer will age out of GNL, will have to wait for an opening in HOT

miner will age out of NVN, will have to wait for an opening in PRT

Superballa will age out of NVN, will have to wait for an opening in PRT

 

Waiting lists going into 2007

HOT

1. Slayer

 

PRT

1. Skrappy1

2. miner

3. Superballa

 

After the 2007 season

Ursa Major will age out of GNL, will have to wait for an opening in HOT

TimC will age out of PRT, will get Ursa Major's spot in GNL

Yukon will age out of PRT, will have to wait for an opening in GNL

Skrappy1 will get TimC's spot in PRT

miner will get Yukon's spot in PRT

Whiskey Pimp will age out of NVN, will have to wait for an opening in PRT

BiggieFries will age out of NVN, will have to wait for an opening in PRT

soopanuts will age out of NVN, will have to wait for an opening in PRT

 

Waiting lists going into 2008

HOT

1. Slayer

2. Ursa Major

 

GNL

1. Yukon

 

PRT

1. Superballa

2. Whiskey Pimp

3. BiggieFries

4. soopanuts

 

After the 2008 season

gilthorp will age out of PRT, will have to wait for an opening in GNL

Puddy will age out of PRT, will have to wait for an opening in GNL

Superballa will get gilthorp's spot in PRT

Whiskey Pimp will get Puddy's spot in PRT

Jumpin Johnines will age out of NVN, will have to wait for an opening in PRT

Los Gigantes will age out of NVN, will have to wait for an opening in PRT

jelap1 will age out of NVN, will have to wait for an opening in PRT

juanruiz13 will age out of NVN, will have to wait for an opening in PRT

 

Waiting lists going into 2009

HOT

1. Slayer

2. Ursa Major

 

GNL

1. Yukon

2. gilthorp

3. Puddy

 

PRT

1. BiggieFries

2. soopanuts

3. Jumpin Johnies

4. Los Gigantes

5. jelap1

6. juanruiz13

 

Going into the 2009 season budlitebrad will be the sole surviving original member of the NVN league.

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Grits- I must have made a mistake when I signed up for HOT. I was born 10-28-1938. Sorry about that. I'm OLD!!

 

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Which makes your victory even sweeter! :D

I changed it in HOT.

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hmmm...would anyone care for a list of everyone's social security numbers to go along with this set of birthdates?...  :D

 

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SURE!!!! :D

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I don't have a social security number so even Big John can't get that on me.

 

Can one of the commishes confirm that the true reason you decided to let current HAG members move to priority was so Blitz would continue to do the stats?

 

Nice work Blitz, looks like I only have the 2008 season to sit out assuming 2 in PRT don't bail and then 9 years in the same league.

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I don't have a social security number so even Big John can't get that on me. 

 

Can one of the commishes confirm that the true reason you decided to let current HAG members move to priority was so Blitz would continue to do the stats?

 

Nice work Blitz, looks like I only have the 2008 season to sit out assuming 2 in PRT don't bail and then 9 years in the same league.

 

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Nah. If Blitz quits we'll engage in a hazing ritual and make someone on the waiting list do it Probably the youngest person :D

 

Here's the thing people don't understand about the waiting list thing...

 

We had some knock-down, drag-out, unfriendly discussions in the early days of HAG on many issues. This was one of those issues. Some people wanted to give priority to people in the league, and some wanted to be fair to anyoone trying to get in. The loudest on making this something that any Huddle memeber could have a good chance of getting into was Skylive5. That was part of his vision when the whole HAG concept started to form. In the end, we all wanted to respect his vision and reasoning. It seemed like the right thing to do as far as everyone was concerned. (If that sounds like he was a man alone at first, it is not the case. We had a fairly even split)

 

When it came right down to it, and we started to put out the things that we had worked out for consumption, the people that wad wanted a more open league were surprised to find out how much people didn't want to be put in a position to not have a preferred spot in the next league up. They didn't forsee the level of ownership and attachment that had occurred.

 

The reason it took so long to come out with the rule is that we had to cover all of the angles and find some commish help from NVN to vote on it. Everyone saw quickly that this was the one issue that could spiral into a big mess, and we wanted to make sure it was taken care of properly. That's how we will try to handle all issues going forward.

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Nah.  If Blitz quits we'll engage in a hazing ritual and make someone on the waiting list do it  Probably the youngest person :D

 

Here's the thing people don't understand about the waiting list thing...

 

We had some knock-down, drag-out, unfriendly discussions in the early days of HAG on many issues.  This was one of those issues.  Some people wanted to give priority to people in the league, and some wanted to be fair to anyoone trying to get in.  The loudest on making this something that any Huddle memeber could have a good chance of getting into was Skylive5.  That was part of his vision  when the whole HAG concept started to form.  In the end, we all wanted to respect his vision and reasoning.  It seemed like the right thing to do as far as everyone was concerned.  (If that sounds like he was a man alone at first, it is not the case.  We had a fairly even split)

 

When it came right down to it, and we started to put out the things that we had worked out for consumption, the people that wad wanted a more open league were surprised to find out how much people didn't want to be put in a position to not have a preferred spot in the next league up.  They didn't forsee the level of ownership and attachment that had occurred.

 

The reason it took so long to come out with the rule is that we had to cover all of the angles and find some commish help from NVN to vote on it.  Everyone saw quickly that this was the one issue that could spiral into a big mess, and we wanted to make sure it was taken care of properly.  That's how we will try to handle all issues going forward.

 

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If there are still guys like Whomper, that can't get in and want to, I still suggest running HAGII as a sister league to HAG, samre rule , same everything, just so more can play.

 

 

If anyone has interest speak up!

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If there are still guys like Whomper, that can't get in and want to, I still suggest running HAGII as a sister league to HAG, samre rule , same everything, just so more can play.

If anyone has interest speak up!

 

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Before that happens (and I have to be careful here...) The idea of a HAG-a-tory league is not quite dead yet. There is still some discussion on it.

 

The HAG commish group prefers to focus on what changes we need to make on our charter for now. Once we have that nailed down there will be more energy/attention to focus on things like a waiting list league.

 

I don't want to discourage a second set of HAG leagues by any means. If there is that many people wanting to play, then by all means go for it. Waiting lists are a kind of necessary evil here, though. It will be tough to maintain a 48 member league (which is what we have effectively just turned this into) with the age groups as a main component without a waiting list. Having 2 could be a real challenge.

 

Unless there is already a hugh member list wanting to form another set, I suggest letting another month pass before working too hard to drum up another 12 per age group. We'll know by then if the waiting list league has any legs.

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