whomper Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 oh man. what a terrible shame. great leader, great competitor, great QB, I was always a big fan. one of those guys, I don't know if he was a great individual in every facet of his life, but in the parts we could observe (mostly related to playing football) he was rare, a real man's man. well said . RIP Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Murder-Suicide Wonder if McNair was breaking it off or not leaving his wife and it triggered her to kill him ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 This story is gonna end very ugly. Personally I think his wife put out the hit. I'm married to a black woman and if I cheated on her with a chick that was 15 years younger than her, bought the chick an Escalade....yeah my wfe would probably do some Jack Bauer crap to me too. I just wish that his wife was more like a politician's. R.I.P Air McNair gone forever. My wife isn't a black chick but I think she would be a little upset as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 For those who think committing adultery makes you not feel sad about his death, you'd be excluding about 75%, if not higher, of sports stars such as Michael Jordan, as well as other national heroes such as JFK, Martin Luther King and Jenna Jamison, among others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 For those who think committing adultery makes you not feel sad about his death, you'd be excluding about 75%, if not higher, of sports stars such as Michael Jordan, as well as other national heroes such as JFK, Martin Luther King and Jenna Jamison, among others. *one of these things is not like the other* RIP Mcnair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 For those who think committing adultery makes you not feel sad about his death, you'd be excluding about 75%, if not higher, of sports stars What the hell does that have to do with anything? Not all sports superstars can be a role model like Jimmy Smith true, but screw these aholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) What the hell does that have to do with anything? Not all sports superstars can be a role model like Jimmy Smith true, but screw these aholes. Ok, what if your brother, father or son cheated on his wife? Would you then not still have the right to feel sad that he died? It does not define who he was. Incidentally, i read that he was separated from his wife, although i cannot confirm that is accurate. Edited July 5, 2009 by Jackass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suture Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 R.I.P. Air McNair. I remember watching him through college. He was a true old school football player if you ask me, battling through injuries that would have kept most NFL players off the field. I'd like to think he was as good a person as I was led to believe, but regardless of his questionable actions of late, you have to feel bad for his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 , as well as other national heroes such as JFK, Martin Luther King and Jenna Jamison, among others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I think everybody laying judgement on McNair might want to wait until the details are better known. I am not a fan of adultery, but the sad fact is that it is business as usual for the wealthy and powerful that have 'tang thrown at them right and left. We don't know what the situation was in his life. Maybe he and his wife were on the outs already and he was moving on. Who knows? I think it is a bit disrespectful and callous to call him a d-bag right off the bat here without knowing all the facts. McNair from all accounts was a good citizen and a great representative of the best of the NFL. He may have not been perfect, he may have had flaws like every mortal, but probably a bit harsh to brush him off as just another dead d-bag. Let's wait and see what really happened here and then commence with the damnation if we must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxfactor Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 As much as I disliked the Titans, Air McNair was a hell of a player and I had hugh respect for him. Even when he was trade to my most hated rival, the Ravens, I still loved the way the guy played. He was a warrior and played hurt like hockey players do. I don't know the complete circumstances of what happened, but I'm in shock. RIP, Steve. I'll always remember you as a class act regardless of how this story ends. As a tribute, I'll be changing my avi in your honor until the start of the regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I liked McNair. Thought he was a tough and top notch football player. But if this plays out like it appears it's going to.... well.... he dropped right off my good guy list and right onto my have no use for list. I'm sorry that this happened but I'm not going to let it bother me like it would if he had been an upright person. I'm not saying he was anything more than a great football player, but this attitude is a real downer considering there are two dead people in this story who are way too young to be in that condition, regardless of what anyone's version of "upright" consists of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 For those who think committing adultery makes you not feel sad about his death, you'd be excluding about 75%, if not higher, of sports stars such as Michael Jordan, as well as other national heroes such as JFK, Martin Luther King and Jenna Jamison, among others. As odd as it is, Jenna Jamison retired from the starring in Porn stuff when she met Tito Ortiz. Ok, what if your brother, father or son cheated on his wife? Would you then not still have the right to feel sad that he died? It does not define who he was. It makes it different, in the sense that if he was sticking to his vows at his wedding, he wouldn't be dead right now. He put himself in the situation. It's still a sad thing, but in the end, he in a way caused it. I know you some of you guys get all bent out of shape because of people's opinions, but I don't feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for his children and wife who he cheated on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I'm not saying he was anything more than a great football player, but this attitude is a real downer considering there are two dead people in this story who are way too young to be in that condition, regardless of what anyone's version of "upright" consists of. I said ...IF... Right now no one really knows for sure and I have made no judgement one way or the other. IF it comes out that he wasn't cheating then my present view of him would have no reason to change. IF it comes out that he was cheating.... then down he goes. I say again...just in case people missed it..... I am sorry this happened. Shouldn't happen to anyone..no matter what their age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime9287 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 His wife said she hadnt talked to him for 3 days. He had an Escalade registered in both his name and the other victims name. He wasn't hiding anything. It sounds like to me a split in their marriage, where they hadn't filed the divorce papers. Mechelle (his wife) could have known about the girl and was ok with it because she knew of the divorce. In that sense, McNair didn't do anything wrong except pick the wrong new g/f. Lets not jump to conclusions people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) His wife said she hadnt talked to him for 3 days. He had an Escalade registered in both his name and the other victims name. He wasn't hiding anything. It sounds like to me a split in their marriage, where they hadn't filed the divorce papers. Mechelle (his wife) could have known about the girl and was ok with it because she knew of the divorce. In that sense, McNair didn't do anything wrong except pick the wrong new g/f. Lets not jump to conclusions people... Are you not jumping to your own conclusions??? I think it is almost impossible to at least not jump to your own conclusion. Mine is that he was cheating on his wife and I assume that had a lot to do with this unfortunate event. I am also assuming that it is probably not the only team he has cheated?? A lot of celebs keep a very neat and clean life when it is probably not the case. You hear a lot of things about Michael Jordan about things like gambling and being a womanizer but people love Jordan and dismiss these things and still treat him as a icon. Same as Michael Jackson who is getting insane coverage when he is an addicted pill guzzler and has messed up kids lives (again just my assumption). If it comes out that Mcnair cheated on his wife then my opinion of him goes way down but it is still a very unfortunate circumstance. Edited July 5, 2009 by gbpfan1231 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 "ide0tec Jul 5, 2009 12:52:53 PM Report Offensive Post As a 47 byear old white male I have learned there is nothing worse than a young white girl with a big nose. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football...0KPgFgw6a&C " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) Interesting case study on the girlfriend. Age 20. Was living with her ex-boyfriend for 4 years (since age 16). Mother died when she was 9. Gets a DUI, wasn't drunk but was high. Job as a waitress at a sports bar, meets celebrity, moves into an upscale neighborhood on celebrity's dime. Get a co-signed Escalade and since she refused the breath test she may not be able to drive it for a long time. Living the high life for the last 5 months. Allegedly commits murder/suicide. Too much, too quick probably. Stress can kill. Wonder how long it would have lasted with McNair being almost twice her age. Interesting if the Facebook screenshot is real as well. Said <expletive> McNair and RIP for the girlfriend two days before the bodies were found. Edited July 5, 2009 by Riffraff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Interesting case study on the girlfriend.Age 20. Was living with her ex-boyfriend for 4 years (since age 16). Mother died when she was 9. Gets a DUI, wasn't drunk but was high. Job as a waitress at a sports bar, meets celebrity, moves into an upscale neighborhood on celebrity's dime. Get a co-signed Escalade and since she refused the breath test she may not be able to drive it for a long time. Living the high life for the last 5 months. Allegedly commits murder/suicide. Too much, too quick probably. Stress can kill. Wonder how long it would have lasted with McNair being almost twice her age. Interesting if the Facebook screenshot is real as well. Said <expletive> McNair and RIP for the girlfriend two days before the bodies were found. I can't imagine a girl like her having very effective coping skills, mom murdered at the tender age of 9; I could see her becoming enraged if someone she loved is going to leave her, deep emotional wounds here, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Interesting case study on the girlfriend.Age 20. Was living with her ex-boyfriend for 4 years (since age 16). Mother died when she was 9. Gets a DUI, wasn't drunk but was high. Job as a waitress at a sports bar, meets celebrity, moves into an upscale neighborhood on celebrity's dime. Get a co-signed Escalade and since she refused the breath test she may not be able to drive it for a long time. Living the high life for the last 5 months. Allegedly commits murder/suicide. Too much, too quick probably. Stress can kill. Wonder how long it would have lasted with McNair being almost twice her age. Interesting if the Facebook screenshot is real as well. Said <expletive> McNair and RIP for the girlfriend two days before the bodies were found. what facebook screenshot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Interesting if the Facebook screenshot is real as well. Said <expletive> McNair and RIP for the girlfriend two days before the bodies were found. I was going to say no one could be that stupid but some people probably are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Spain said she is Al Qaeda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Bummer, truly a bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFRO Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Initially of course I was in shock. its just some strange news to be hearing over the holiday, about a guy presumed to be "The Good Guy" community involved, a leader(ship), and an all-pro NFL football WARRIOR QB. Damn good, but not the best either...loved his style none the less. I still do not know everything. above all I think its a sad day for his four children and wife (or seperated spouse or w/e..) and family, a sad day for the girl and her parents and family.. IF this is the ugly mess it seems to be -a Murder/Suicide- based on the resluts of infedelity gone wrong; then I will have lost a lot of respect for what it appeared he used to stand for. IF other news comes out to contridict the current -M/S senario- I think it will rest easier in my mind.. especially after the bit about ["if he had been upholding his wedding vows; how he would not have even been in that situation" to paraphrase.. ] tough not to speculate at this point.. I still think its kind of F'ed up, and I hate that they had to die over someting so selfish, and toughtless. Murder and Suicide IMO are not the answer to adultry. and their deaths affect far more then the deceased. I am sure they will both be missed in their own way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 what facebook screenshot? It was taken down after it got noticed. Here's a copy of it. It was posted in the comments section of the tennesseean.com article, which was also taken down since I last posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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