keggerz Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Just curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 .....and lose to the worst team in football? Brady = OVER RATED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uglytuna Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Hell Chad Pennington is even better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 21, 2004 Author Share Posted December 21, 2004 .....and lose to the worst team in football? Brady = OVER RATED 623370[/snapback] thats not true Brady didnt lose to SF this yr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsnottatooma Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 thats not true Brady didnt lose to SF this yr 623390[/snapback] ....Not yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 (edited) ....Not yet... 623392[/snapback] Edited December 21, 2004 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 21, 2004 Author Share Posted December 21, 2004 (edited) Lets call a spade a spade..... ADVERSITY BUILDS CHARACTER!! If you are down by 6 with less then 2 mins to play I dont care if its today or FIFTY YEARS FROM now MR BRADY isnt the 1st QB anyone should have at the top of their list of QBs to LEAD you to a WIN.... WHY?? MADDEN HIT IT ON THE HEAD...Brady doesnt have MANY(how many does he have?) come from behind wins....thats because his DEF doesnt give up the LEAD...untill MR BRADY has to weather adversities like he faced tonite HE CANT BE COMPARED with the LIKES of MONTANA, ELWAY or for that matter even JAKE THE SNAKE...ok well the Snake part is taking it a bit to far... Edited December 21, 2004 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrappy1 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 ok well the Snake part is taking it a bit to far... 623404[/snapback] As long as you recognize that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 vs a good D, he looked suspect. I dont even think NE makes the AFC Champ game. Round 2 they will get Indy, and we saw last night a better D than NE have trouble with illegal contact with the Indy Wrs and edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 hahaha..calm down guys...really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 (edited) hahaha..calm down guys...really 623455[/snapback] Its just rediculous in this modern day, watered down NFL, that anyone compares this guy to Montana. He isnt even on par with Aikman, Young or J Kelley as a QB. Those Bills teams that got spanked in 4 straight Sbs would tear this NE team a new ass week in week out. Hell if I was given the NE D, and I had to pick any QB in the NFL for one game Id take Manning, Favre, or McNair when healthy, over Brady in todays NFL. Edited December 21, 2004 by Sgt. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I told you Brady was overrated. Faces a good D and he falls apart, just like he did against the Steelers. :oldrazz: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 He had four vs. the Cincinnati Bengals on 11/4/1984. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrick35 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 (edited) thats not true Brady didnt lose to SF this yr 623390[/snapback] Yet! But they do have to play them week 17, don't they? Just Kidding, Brady is still a great QB. I find it humorous that in a game where critics have always said, to be considered a really great QB you have to win a Super Bowl. Whenever people talk about Marino they say, but yeah he never won a Super Bowl. Even now when people talk about Manning they say, he can't win the big games and until he does he won't be considered great. And here we have Brady winner of not just one but two Super Bowls, and within 3 years. And wasn't he the MVP of both? And yet people will say that after 4 INT's and in only the 2nd loss of the year, hell of their last 29 Games or something like that, That Brady is overrated. Christ what does a QB have to do to garner a little respect from these people? Edited December 21, 2004 by Jrick35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 If you are down by 6 with less then 2 mins to play I dont care if its today or FIFTY YEARS FROM now MR BRADY isnt the 1st QB anyone should have at the top of their list of QBs to LEAD you to a WIN.... WHY?? MADDEN HIT IT ON THE HEAD...Brady doesnt have MANY(how many does he have?) come from behind wins....thats because his DEF doesnt give up the LEAD...untill MR BRADY has to weather adversities like he faced tonite HE CANT BE COMPARED with the LIKES of MONTANA, ELWAY or for that matter even JAKE THE SNAKE...ok well the Snake part is taking it a bit to far... 623404[/snapback] The one year that Brady didn't have a dominating defense, his team missed the playoffs. Winning is a TEAM effort, much more so in football than many other sports. Individuals don't win, teams do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I find it humorous that in a game where critics have always said, to be considered a really great QB you have to win a Super Bowl. 623776[/snapback] People who say that are idiots. Winning a championship takes a complete TEAM. I absolutely refuse to downgrade players like Marino, Tarkenton, Kelly, and Fouts because their TEAMS weren't good enough to win a SB. All were just as good as Montana (Marino and Tarkenton were better). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 And here we have Brady winner of not just one but two Super Bowls, and within 3 years. And wasn't he the MVP of both? And yet people will say that after 4 INT's and in only the 2nd loss of the year, hell of their last 29 Games or something like that, That Brady is overrated. Christ what does a QB have to do to garner a little respect from these people? 623776[/snapback] He was no more responsible for his team's Superbowl wins than any of his teammates. His team won two Superbowls and he got the MVPs because they had to pick someone and there is a QB bias. Brady has the respect of people - a little too much respect IMO. He's viewed as the Second Coming and he is really nothing more than a solid game manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 He was no more responsible for his team's Superbowl wins than any of his teammates. His team won two Superbowls and he got the MVPs because they had to pick someone and there is a QB bias. 623884[/snapback] Well, I'm not sure if I'd go THAT far, as he played very well this past February. That said, Ty Law certainly deserved the MVP in SB 36. Brady has the respect of people - a little too much respect IMO. He's viewed as the Second Coming and he is really nothing more than a solid game manager. He's good and makes big plays, but I don't think that he's any better than Favre, Manning, McNair, or McNabb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 (edited) He was no more responsible for his team's Superbowl wins than any of his teammates. His team won two Superbowls and he got the MVPs because they had to pick someone and there is a QB bias. Brady has the respect of people - a little too much respect IMO. He's viewed as the Second Coming and he is really nothing more than a solid game manager. 623884[/snapback] Listen to the lady. For once she knows what she is talking about. Edited December 21, 2004 by Perchoutofwater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Listen to the lady. For once she knows what she is talking about. 623898[/snapback] That wasn't even from this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I told you Brady was overrated. Faces a good D and he falls apart, just like he did against the Steelers. :oldrazz: 623768[/snapback] Yeah, squeegie, he really fell apart against Baltimore this year, and Carolina in the SB last year. Two awful defenses. Settttttttttle down, folks. One bad game and everyone suddenly thinks he's Sage Rosenfels. See ya in the AFC Champ. game, when all the pressure will be on Big Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 See ya in the AFC Champ. game, when all the pressure will be on Big Ben. 623953[/snapback] When you say "Big Ben", you're talking about Peyton Manning right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 When you say "Big Ben", you're talking about Peyton Manning right? 623964[/snapback] Oh yeah....that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady12 Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 YEah, I agree, I'd much rather have Peyton "NEVER WON A BIG GAME IN MY LIFE" Manning than Brady. Grow up you immature football viewers. Brady shredded good defenses all year, Baltimore, Jets, Buffalo twice. We've lost 2 games: one with Dillon out and one after Charlie Weis spent all week in South Bend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 YEah, I agree, I'd much rather have Peyton "NEVER WON A BIG GAME IN MY LIFE" Manning than Brady. Grow up you immature football viewers. Brady shredded good defenses all year, Baltimore, Jets, Buffalo twice. We've lost 2 games: one with Dillon out and one after Charlie Weis spent all week in South Bend. 623971[/snapback] Stepping up in UT's absence I see. Tom "I won Super Bowls because of my surrounding cast" Brady. or Tom "My stats suck but I win because of my team" Brady. That the guy you're talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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