Fatman Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I'm not a fan of rewarding guys for past accomplishments like that, but the 16 TDs are hard to argue with . . . 626923[/snapback] Agreed, and I think he deserved it on the merits of this season as well. Had the best RB in the game (umequiocally, IMO) not made again this year, the Pro Bowl would be meaningless (at least moreso than it already is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigskin_Fan Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Not everyone on the Colts roster can make the Pro Bowl. 626684[/snapback] Why not the Philly roster did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Agreed, and I think he deserved it on the merits of this season as well. Had the best RB in the game (umequiocally, IMO) not made again this year, the Pro Bowl would be meaningless (at least moreso than it already is). 626942[/snapback] I'm a Pats fan and all, but Dillon does have in the neighborhood of 200 more rushing yards and only 4 fewer TDs, with a better ypc average. Only knock against Corey is his lack of receiving yardage. You ask me, Dillon, LT and Edge are on the same level. C-Mart is slightly above them this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 (edited) I never believed he would make it this year, but the best linebacker on the Bears, Lance Briggs, did get robbed out of a spot this year IMO. He puts together another year like this, and doesn't get in, it would be a major crime. By far, he was a better performer than Brooking and Washington...but it is what it is. Nice season Lance. Tackles/Solo's/Assists/FR/INT/Sacks Briggs, Lance CHI LB 188 94 17 0 0 0 Brooking, Keith ATL LB 171 74 15 1 2 2 Brooks, Derrick TBB LB 202 92 24 0 1 3 Washington, Marcus WAS LB 167 76 17 1 0 3 Edited December 22, 2004 by gilthorp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigskin_Fan Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 My list is an easy one for snubs: Koren Robinson Kevin Barlow Redskins O'line Steve McNair Ricky Williams Joey Harrington Saints Def I'm sorry, I actually didn't check to see if these guys were snubbed officially or not so I guess there is a chance they could have made it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoog Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I'm not a fan of rewarding guys for past accomplishments like that, but the 16 TDs are hard to argue with . . . 626923[/snapback] My God! The guy has 1,600 yards from scrimmage AND scored the TDs! Forget last year (he got jobbed)! This year merits a trip to the Islands on its own merits! What more do you want from the kid? All he has to do is come close to this and last year's production next year nad he will have done what no other back has done in his first 5 years in a few categories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 I feel retarded for even feeling that 2 philly players were snubbed since half the starting roster went Westbrook and Kearse.... Westy played better than Green IMO...and Kearse may not have double digit sacks...but he causes havoc every single play and is half the reason 3 of our 4 players in the secondary made it.... maybe I would take out trotter?....since he only started half the season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 My God! The guy has 1,600 yards from scrimmage AND scored the TDs! Forget last year (he got jobbed)! This year merits a trip to the Islands on its own merits! What more do you want from the kid? All he has to do is come close to this and last year's production next year nad he will have done what no other back has done in his first 5 years in a few categories 626966[/snapback] 1. the original post seemed to imply that he deserved the nod at least in part b/c of what happened last year - that's what I was commenting on. 2. for sh!ts and giggles - Dillon has 50 fewer total yards on 40 fewer touches. Give him another 40 touches and he'd eclipse LTs yardage totals and probably net another 2 TDs. I think Dillon deserves the nod over LT, but that's the homer in me talking . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 My list is an easy one for snubs:Koren Robinson Kevin Barlow Redskins O'line Steve McNair Ricky Williams Joey Harrington Saints Def Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finger Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Homer picks here, but still feel they got the snub. Dillon, Rodney Harrison and Ted Bruschi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 No way should Hines Ward be going ahead of Reggie Wayne. No way. Hines Ward 75 receptions 972 yards 13.0 avg. 4 TD Reggie Wayne 71 receptions 1059 yards 14.9 avg. 11 TD 626465[/snapback] There must be at least 3 or 4 receivers that should play over Ward. What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgcoach Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I couln't agree more. No way does the Bus deserve Pro Bowl this year. 626889[/snapback] I have to agree with this. But you can't take away the fact that at his age in the NFL he's done a great job for the way he's being used. He was also a good fill in for Staley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glabra Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Antoine Winfield..simply amazing football player. The general public may not have an appreciation for someone on the Vikes' defense, but there's no one quite like this guy in the NFL. Leads the Vikes in tackles, ST tackles and INTs, and shuts down some of the best receivers in the game. Will knock out Tight ends and full backs twice his size, and makes some of the most amazing tackles you'll ever see. And he gets passed over for Dre freakin' Bly? I hope he gets his due one of these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitbull739 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Steeler homer here, and I was VERY surprised to see Hines get in this year. As many have said, there are a few other receivers that deserve his spot (Wayne, J. Smith). He's still one of the best and if we were playing pickup football on the playground, he would be my #1, but I agree that he should not be in the Pro Bowl this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountBlackula Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Donnie Edwards. Easily. HE LEADS THE NFL IN TACKLES. Yet he doesn't even go as an alternate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 No way should Hines Ward be going ahead of Reggie Wayne. No way. Hines Ward 75 receptions 972 yards 13.0 avg. 4 TD Reggie Wayne 71 receptions 1059 yards 14.9 avg. 11 TD 626465[/snapback] I would much rather have Ward on my team for his blocking and all around team play than Wayne for his numbers. Wayne should be there imo, but not at the expense of Ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 ...Champ Bailey made it....where was ...maybe Nate Clements?...or..Sam Madison.....possibly even Surtain?.... Bailey might be one of the most burned corners in the league and thanks god he hasn't had to play the Packers early on or the Colts at any point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Antoine Winfield..simply amazing football player. The general public may not have an appreciation for someone on the Vikes' defense, but there's no one quite like this guy in the NFL. Leads the Vikes in tackles, ST tackles and INTs, and shuts down some of the best receivers in the game. Will knock out Tight ends and full backs twice his size, and makes some of the most amazing tackles you'll ever see. And he gets passed over for Dre freakin' Bly? I hope he gets his due one of these days. 627277[/snapback] I agree....I thought he was going to make it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favreforlife Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 No way Marco Rivera should of gone over Mike Wahle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I couln't agree more. No way does the Bus deserve Pro Bowl this year. 626889[/snapback] If one considers that the AFC is stacked with stud backs (LT, C-Mart, Dillon, Edge), he certainly doesn't deserve to be a starter. However, I see no reason why he couldn't at least be CONSIDERED for an alternate spot. He's 33 years old, didn't start the season as a featured back, yet still has 824 rushing yds, 13 TDs, and ZERO fumbles lost. Oh, and his team has the best record in the AFC, thanks largely their power running game. IMO, Bettis is a hell of a lot more deserving this year than perennial studs like Priest, Lewis, and Taylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsfan04 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 (edited) Rodney Harrison got robbed, big time. He should have made it over Lynch. Harrison Gm.....TK......PD....SK....FF....INT 14......115......8......3......3......2 Lynch Gm.....TK......PD....SK....FF....INT 13......58........7......2......3......1 If the argument is that Harrison plays closer to the line and therefore has more tackles, why does he have more pass deflections and interceptions than Lynch? Edited December 23, 2004 by Patsfan04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsfan04 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 If one considers that the AFC is stacked with stud backs (LT, C-Mart, Dillon, Edge), he certainly doesn't deserve to be a starter. However, I see no reason why he couldn't at least be CONSIDERED for an alternate spot. He's 33 years old, didn't start the season as a featured back, yet still has 824 rushing yds, 13 TDs, and ZERO fumbles lost. Oh, and his team has the best record in the AFC, thanks largely their power running game. IMO, Bettis is a hell of a lot more deserving this year than perennial studs like Priest, Lewis, and Taylor. 627650[/snapback] Maybe stick the bus in there as the fullback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glabra Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 If one considers that the AFC is stacked with stud backs (LT, C-Mart, Dillon, Edge), he certainly doesn't deserve to be a starter. However, I see no reason why he couldn't at least be CONSIDERED for an alternate spot. He's 33 years old, didn't start the season as a featured back, yet still has 824 rushing yds, 13 TDs, and ZERO fumbles lost. Oh, and his team has the best record in the AFC, thanks largely their power running game. IMO, Bettis is a hell of a lot more deserving this year than perennial studs like Priest, Lewis, and Taylor. 627650[/snapback] Are Priest, Lewis and Taylor going as alternates ahead of Bettis? If not, who in front of him would you sit for the Bus? I'm just curious. He's having an amazing season, but what age the stats were compiled at is pretty much irrelevant to the Pro Bowl ballot. There's also no special weightage for doing well when you aren't expected to. The only bottomline is overall performance, and that's unfortunate sometime..but that's how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Donnie Edwards, S. Ellis, R.Wayne and Dillon got hosed in the AFC (in Dillon's case, it was simply a #s game I think....as someone else said, you could make a case for Rudi, Droughns, and Taylor, too). I also think Tedy Bruschi is perhaps the most underrated/overlooked defensive player in the league, year in, year out. Again, there's a glut of fine LBs in the AFC – have they just written Ray-Ray's name in there for the next 10 years for fear he might kill them? – but Bruschi should at least be an alternate. He's the heart and soul of that defense, and while it's not as dominating as years past, it's still pretty d@mn tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkirc Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Rod Coleman, DT, Falcons got jobbed. He was probably the Falcons MVP. when he was in there, the defense got all their sacks. When he was out, they did squat. Not a glamorous pick, but I think he made the difference to one of the best Ds in the NFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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