stevegrab Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Another factor with the divisions, SF was in a 4 team division for most of that 1981-2000 period that somebody was looking at, while the NFC East was 5 divisions. That meant every year NFCE played 8 division games, while SF played just 6 and had 2 other games against possibly better opponents (better than what would be the 5th place team in a division, the extra division games for NFCE). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, whomper said: ( im not embarrased , I am imitating a saints fan from that era ) I was going to make a comeback by providing a stat on how many playoff games Dallas has won in x years. However, when I went to do a search it provided me with something much funnier. You know how when you do a web search it automatically starts to fill it in? When you type a web search "how many playoff games" the top search is how many has Dak won and a couple down from that is how many has Romo won. You wanna borrow my bag? I haven't used it in a VERY long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, stevegrab said: Another factor with the divisions, SF was in a 4 team division for most of that 1981-2000 period that somebody was looking at, while the NFC East was 5 divisions. That meant every year NFCE played 8 division games, while SF played just 6 and had 2 other games against possibly better opponents (better than what would be the 5th place team in a division, the extra division games for NFCE). NFC east is the greatest division in football and for many years they were the most physical. SF cruised to a division title in most years during their heydey. Their road was much easier than others , but they earned the respect as an all time great because they won in the playoffs as well . Of course a team would put up some resistance here and there . Someone made the comment about the Pats havinbg an easy regular season road. I found the Niners had a similar path. No big whoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, rajncajn said: I was going to make a comeback by providing a stat on how many playoff games Dallas has won in x years. However, when I went to do a search it provided me with something much funnier. You know how when you do a web search it automatically starts to fill it in? When you type a web search "how many playoff games" the top search is how many has Dak won and a couple down from that is how many has Romo won. You wanna borrow my bag? I haven't used it in a VERY long time. Oh modern day Cowboys are a joke. No dispute here . My comparison was just to the Brady / Pats easy road as compared to the Niners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, rajncajn said: I was going to make a comeback by providing a stat on how many playoff games Dallas has won in x years. However, when I went to do a search it provided me with something much funnier. You know how when you do a web search it automatically starts to fill it in? When you type a web search "how many playoff games" the top search is how many has Dak won and a couple down from that is how many has Romo won. You wanna borrow my bag? I haven't used it in a VERY long time. Im glad the Saints enjoyed some Bountiful later years as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, whomper said: NFC east is the greatest division in football and for many years they were the most physical. SF cruised to a division title in most years during their heydey. Their road was much easier than others , but they earned the respect as an all time great because they won in the playoffs as well . Of course a team would put up some resistance here and there . Someone made the comment about the Pats havinbg an easy regular season road. I found the Niners had a similar path. No big whoop sir.. you are incorrect. go take a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bier Meister said: sir.. you are incorrect. go take a look. Slapping a Pasian is not a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big John said: Slapping a Pasian is not a good idea. except i am 25% Sicilian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bier Meister said: except i am 25% Sicilian Inconceivable! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 ITALIAN TICKLE FIGHT!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bier Meister said: except i am 25% Sicilian Sorry to hear that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Bier Meister said: except i am 25% Sicilian more of an eastern block mix: austrian german northern italian hungarian russian czech polish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) Sorry I was away for a bit. I was gathering some facts for the guy with the gorgeous hair. Lets look at the years where the boys and the 9ers won their sbs 2 of the 5 years they won their superbowls there wasnt another team in their division over or at .500 88 very competitive 1994 season Niners super bowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 13 3 0 New Orleans 7 9 0 Atlanta 7 9 0 LA Rams 4 12 0 1984 season Niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 15 1 0 LA Rams 10 6 0 New Orleans 7 9 0 Atlanta 4 12 0 1988 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 10 6 0 LA Rams 10 6 0 New Orleans 10 6 0 Atlanta 5 11 0 1989 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 14 2 0 LA Rams 11 5 0 New Orleans 9 7 0 Atlanta 3 13 0 1981 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 13 3 0 Atlanta 7 9 0 Los Angeles 6 10 0 New Orleans 4 12 0 Cowboys Never a year with every other team under 500 2 years with one team at or above 3 years with 2 teams at or above 1971 season SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 11 3 0 Washington 9 4 1 Philadelphia 6 7 1 St. Louis 4 9 1 NY Giants 4 10 0 Cowboys 77 sb champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 2 0 Washington 9 5 0 St. Louis 7 7 0 Philadelphia 5 9 0 NY Giants 5 9 0 Cowboys 1992 SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 13 3 0 Philadelphia 11 5 0 Washington 9 7 0 NY Giants 6 10 0 Phoenix 4 12 0 Cowboys 1993 SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 4 0 NY Giants 11 5 0 Philadelphia 8 8 0 Phoenix 7 9 0 Washington 4 12 0 Cowboys 1995 SB Champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 4 0 Philadelphia 10 6 0 Washington 6 10 0 NY Giants 5 11 0 Arizona 4 12 0 Edited February 7, 2023 by whomper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) text removed I was wrong This focus on "other teams in the division" ignores the rest of the schedule those teams players. Which for NFCW would include two more teams outside the division, instead of having a 5th team that gave them 2 more wins. Edited February 7, 2023 by stevegrab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, whomper said: Sorry I was away for a bit. I was gathering some facts for the guy with the gorgeous hair. Lets look at the years where the boys and the 9ers won their sbs 2 of the 5 years they won their superbowls there wasnt another team in their division over .500 88 very competitive 1994 season Niners super bowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 13 3 0 New Orleans 7 9 0 Atlanta 7 9 0 LA Rams 4 12 0 1984 season Niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 15 1 0 LA Rams 10 6 0 New Orleans 7 9 0 Atlanta 4 12 0 1988 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 10 6 0 LA Rams 10 6 0 New Orleans 10 6 0 Atlanta 5 11 0 1989 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 14 2 0 LA Rams 11 5 0 New Orleans 9 7 0 Atlanta 3 13 0 1981 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 13 3 0 Atlanta 7 9 0 Los Angeles 6 10 0 New Orleans 4 12 0 Cowboys Never a year with every other team under 500 2 years with one team 3 years with 2 teams 1971 season SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 11 3 0 Washington 9 4 1 Philadelphia 6 7 1 St. Louis 4 9 1 NY Giants 4 10 0 Cowboys 77 sb champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 2 0 Washington 9 5 0 St. Louis 7 7 0 Philadelphia 5 9 0 NY Giants 5 9 0 Cowboys 1992 SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 13 3 0 Philadelphia 11 5 0 Washington 9 7 0 NY Giants 6 10 0 Phoenix 4 12 0 Cowboys 1993 SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 4 0 NY Giants 11 5 0 Philadelphia 8 8 0 Phoenix 7 9 0 Washington 4 12 0 Cowboys 1995 SB Champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 4 0 Philadelphia 10 6 0 Washington 6 10 0 NY Giants 5 11 0 Arizona 4 12 0 So in the SB seasons: cowboys had 4 years with 40% with winning records 1 season where 60% of division had winning records 49ers: 2 seasons of 25% 2 seasons of 50% 1 season of 75% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, stevegrab said: Hmm Cowboys 1971 SB, that looks like 3 teams under .500, PHI's 6-7-1 is under .500 by a full game. This focus on "other teams in the division" ignores the rest of the schedule those teams players. Which for NFCW would include two more teams outside the division, instead of having a 5th team that gave them 2 more wins. I said 2 years with one team at or above .500 , where was I wrong ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bier Meister said: So in the SB seasons: cowboys had 4 years with 40% with winning records 1 season where 60% of division had winning records 49ers: 2 seasons of 25% 2 seasons of 50% 1 season of 75% In nearly half of your sb seasons you had a full division under .500 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, whomper said: I said 2 years with one team at or above .500 , where was I wrong ? Yep I misread that and removed it from my post (even admitted I was wrong) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, whomper said: In nearly half of your sb seasons you had a full division under .500 . Full division should probably say rest of the division, because the 49ers are in the division and not below .500 Winning percentages by the "other team" in the divisions for each year could be interesting but I'm not trying to prove anything so I'm not doing the math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, whomper said: Sorry I was away for a bit. I was gathering some facts for the guy with the gorgeous hair. Lets look at the years where the boys and the 9ers won their sbs 2 of the 5 years they won their superbowls there wasnt another team in their division over or at .500 88 very competitive 1994 season Niners super bowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 13 3 0 New Orleans 7 9 0 Atlanta 7 9 0 LA Rams 4 12 0 1984 season Niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 15 1 0 LA Rams 10 6 0 New Orleans 7 9 0 Atlanta 4 12 0 1988 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 10 6 0 LA Rams 10 6 0 New Orleans 10 6 0 Atlanta 5 11 0 1989 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 14 2 0 LA Rams 11 5 0 New Orleans 9 7 0 Atlanta 3 13 0 1981 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 13 3 0 Atlanta 7 9 0 Los Angeles 6 10 0 New Orleans 4 12 0 Cowboys Never a year with every other team under 500 2 years with one team at or above 3 years with 2 teams at or above 1971 season SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 11 3 0 Washington 9 4 1 Philadelphia 6 7 1 St. Louis 4 9 1 NY Giants 4 10 0 Cowboys 77 sb champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 2 0 Washington 9 5 0 St. Louis 7 7 0 Philadelphia 5 9 0 NY Giants 5 9 0 Cowboys 1992 SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 13 3 0 Philadelphia 11 5 0 Washington 9 7 0 NY Giants 6 10 0 Phoenix 4 12 0 Cowboys 1993 SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 4 0 NY Giants 11 5 0 Philadelphia 8 8 0 Phoenix 7 9 0 Washington 4 12 0 Cowboys 1995 SB Champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 4 0 Philadelphia 10 6 0 Washington 6 10 0 NY Giants 5 11 0 Arizona 4 12 0 That's all well & good, but I thought we were comparing the 9ers years of success to the Patriots years of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, rajncajn said: That's all well & good, but I thought we were comparing the 9ers years of success to the Patriots years of success. This is a side bar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running With Daboll Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, League_Champion said: Sorry to hear that. Whoa! No smiley face after that bro? 100% Sicilian blood here, and proud of it. Your next FedEx delivery might include a vest filled with fish. 😁 As Bill Maher would say..." I kid of course". Edited February 8, 2023 by Running With Daboll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running With Daboll Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 18 hours ago, whomper said: Sorry I was away for a bit. I was gathering some facts for the guy with the gorgeous hair. Lets look at the years where the boys and the 9ers won their sbs 2 of the 5 years they won their superbowls there wasnt another team in their division over or at .500 88 very competitive 1994 season Niners super bowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 13 3 0 New Orleans 7 9 0 Atlanta 7 9 0 LA Rams 4 12 0 1984 season Niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 15 1 0 LA Rams 10 6 0 New Orleans 7 9 0 Atlanta 4 12 0 1988 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 10 6 0 LA Rams 10 6 0 New Orleans 10 6 0 Atlanta 5 11 0 1989 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 14 2 0 LA Rams 11 5 0 New Orleans 9 7 0 Atlanta 3 13 0 1981 season niners superbowl champs NFC WEST W L T San Francisco 13 3 0 Atlanta 7 9 0 Los Angeles 6 10 0 New Orleans 4 12 0 Cowboys Never a year with every other team under 500 2 years with one team at or above 3 years with 2 teams at or above 1971 season SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 11 3 0 Washington 9 4 1 Philadelphia 6 7 1 St. Louis 4 9 1 NY Giants 4 10 0 Cowboys 77 sb champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 2 0 Washington 9 5 0 St. Louis 7 7 0 Philadelphia 5 9 0 NY Giants 5 9 0 Cowboys 1992 SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 13 3 0 Philadelphia 11 5 0 Washington 9 7 0 NY Giants 6 10 0 Phoenix 4 12 0 Cowboys 1993 SB champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 4 0 NY Giants 11 5 0 Philadelphia 8 8 0 Phoenix 7 9 0 Washington 4 12 0 Cowboys 1995 SB Champs NFC EAST W L T Dallas 12 4 0 Philadelphia 10 6 0 Washington 6 10 0 NY Giants 5 11 0 Arizona 4 12 0 I protest this post and ask for its removal. I don't need to be reminded of those awful Giants seasons. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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