stevegrab Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 I was reading the full details yesterday, he has to leave the facility on Aug 30 when roster cuts to 53 occur. He can return to the facility for limited stuff (meetings, training) after the 5th game (half the suspension length) on October 4th and return to practice on Nov 14 two weeks before he is eligible to play in a game. And his first game back would be Dec 5, in Houston of all places. https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/08/rules-for-deshaun-watsons-11-game-suspension-when-he-must-leave-when-he-can-return-and-everything-in-between.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I was reading a yahoo link today that also mentioned that his 3rd party treatment counselor has to sign off prior to his return to the nfl and if he continues to give contradictory messages this maybe an issue. Before reaching the deal he started apologizing, since the settlement all he has said was that he was always innocent and "never assaulted or disrespected anyone " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinishTheDrill Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, millworkguy said: Before reaching the deal he started apologizing, since the settlement all he has said was that he was always innocent and "never assaulted or disrespected anyone " That's probably a function of the varying definitions of or rather his interpretations of the meaning of "assault" and "disrespect" . "Yo, you so fine. Lemme grab that and here, I'll give you some of this"... Geesh, I was trying to be flattering! (Some will take this as me defending him. They shouldnt.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Will be interesting to see if we get any details about the 3rd party counselor and having to get their approval before he can play. I'm pretty sure that he'll say whatever is needed at some point, even if that might include saying something in public that he doesn't believe. $230M is a big pile of money to toss away for your ego. I doubt they're going to require him to admit to crimes in a public statement but something that doesn't proclaim complete innocence and accepts he did some things wrong would be reasonable. Not sure how much more of this dirty story the NFL wants out there, especially as we approach the season kickoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Grey Pilgrim Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 So will this last "new" charge (or not so new) re-open the NFL to reconsider the suspension length already given. And what if one more claim (or more) come up once the 11 game suspension has been served? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 14, 2022 Share Posted October 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, The Grey Pilgrim said: So will this last "new" charge (or not so new) re-open the NFL to reconsider the suspension length already given. And what if one more claim (or more) come up once the 11 game suspension has been served? Also posted in the other thread, NFL says no change at this time. I don't recall there being anything in the settlement that would suddenly trigger more punishment just based on another allegation. I know the Browns had some stuff in his contract that would allow them to get out if it turned out he wasn't honest with them about all the incidents that happened. But I doubt they'll try to get out unless he is suspended further or flames out when he returns. https://news.yahoo.com/nfl-says-deshaun-watson-status-170521275.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stevegrab Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Two more difficult games before Watson returns, at BUF then vs TB. The Browns have lost 5 of their last 6, with only that big MNF win over the Bengals to show a sign of life. The offense just looked bad yesterday, like they forgot to run the ball, or more accurately like MIA knew how to stop it very easily. They rarely had a productive carry on first down, I recall one time they did well, then it was 3rd & 1 and Hunt was stuffed for a 2 yard loss. 5-12 on 3rd and 2-5 on 4th down conversions is a big part of the problem. Just saying temper those expectations, and if there's a big game in his return I'd sell high, because games @CIN, BAL, NO, @WAS, @PIT won't be as favorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelBunz Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I dunno...my expectations were that they go 5-12/6-11...with or without "Mr. HappyEnding".🤫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijoerock Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 He's rostered in 56% of yahoo leagues. Will these numbers change drastically if this guy performs or will the morally conscience manager leave this guy on the waiver wire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, gijoerock said: He's rostered in 56% of yahoo leagues. Will these numbers change drastically if this guy performs or will the morally conscience manager leave this guy on the waiver wire? Got him on my bench in one league. 2qb leagues will have to have him rostered Not like the rest of the league are all saints, pretty sure most leagues have Tyreek rostered, Hunt rostered, most have DHop rostered, most would have Winston rostered if he was starting, Zeke is heavily rostered. Sure that there are many many players with questionable reputations that are worse than non-criminal happy endings being sued for some quick cash. Edited November 26, 2022 by Yoyo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinishTheDrill Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 34 minutes ago, gijoerock said: He's rostered in 56% of yahoo leagues. Will these numbers change drastically if this guy performs or will the morally conscience manager leave this guy on the waiver wire? Tyreek Hill beat a pregnant woman and is rostered @100%, so I am thinking "no" is the simple response. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 52 minutes ago, gijoerock said: He's rostered in 56% of yahoo leagues. Will these numbers change drastically if this guy performs or will the morally conscience manager leave this guy on the waiver wire? He needs to be rostered in 100% of Leagues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijoerock Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, League_Champion said: He needs to be rostered in 100% of Leagues I grabbed him for insurance just in case Hurts goes south or injured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 hour ago, gijoerock said: I grabbed him for insurance just in case Hurts goes south or injured. Having Watson as a QB 1 or 2 for the playoffs could be league winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinishTheDrill Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, League_Champion said: Having Watson as a QB 1 or 2 for the playoffs could be league winning. I stashed him a couple weeks ago, deep 2qb league I knew he'd be a premium. He'll be replacing Kenny Pickett. Decent upgrade, I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, FinishTheDrill said: I stashed him a couple weeks ago, deep 2qb league I knew he'd be a premium. He'll be replacing Kenny Pickett. Decent upgrade, I'd say. The second he steps on the field he's a top 5 QB without question. I don't care how long he's been out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijoerock Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 He will definitely need a massage after his first couple of games. Let's get it DW. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, gijoerock said: He will definitely need a massage after his first couple of games. Let's get it DW. Haha, he's gonna be sore. He'll definitely be ordering a washy washy 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 I've been streaming QBs all season and stashed him for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 8 hours ago, League_Champion said: The second he steps on the field he's a top 5 QB without question. I don't care how long he's been out. I hope you guys are right, you convinced me to pick him up where I have Allen and Fields and am now carrying 3 QBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, Montana is da Man said: I hope you guys are right, you convinced me to pick him up where I have Allen and Fields and am now carrying 3 QBs You probably don't need him but it's great insurance and it blocks someone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Montana is da Man said: I hope you guys are right, you convinced me to pick him up where I have Allen and Fields and am now carrying 3 QBs With Allen you don't need him. I'll say this, at this point I don't think you can do much wrong. If you hold him it keeps anybody else from playing him against you and like LC said, he's insurance if an injury occurs. However even if you drop him, unless you have a blind bidding system, he's likely to get picked up by a bottom-feeder anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 6 hours ago, rajncajn said: With Allen you don't need him. I'll say this, at this point I don't think you can do much wrong. If you hold him it keeps anybody else from playing him against you and like LC said, he's insurance if an injury occurs. However even if you drop him, unless you have a blind bidding system, he's likely to get picked up by a bottom-feeder anyway. Our waiver order does not reset weekly, two playoff teams have saved their priorities which is part of why I grabbed him now and didn't wait until Wednesday. Unless they shut fields down, I'll be carrying 3 qbs to play keep away with fields and watson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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