rajncajn Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, League_Champion said: I hope you're right, we'll see. Honestly, I would never question his motivation or desire. For me, the only issues with him are whether he will stay healthy, offensive scheme and QB play. Edited February 27, 2022 by rajncajn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 15 hours ago, League_Champion said: I bought very low on him last season so I do hope it works out but I'm expecting nothing. Buying low makes sense, selling low does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 17 hours ago, LordOpie said: Is okay we disagree. I'll trade him asap. We'll know more in a few years I'd be very interested in seeing what you got for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, rajncajn said: I'd be very interested in seeing what you got for him. I traded for him very early on. I think I gave up Henderson to the Akers owner in that league. I'll have to look but it wasn't much at all. At the time it felt like a lot though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, LordOpie said: While I'm down.on Thomas, I'd certainly give up Henderson for him, that was great value for you Wait till training camp or around the draft. Once people see him running around catching passes you'll get a lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, stevegrab said: Buying low makes sense, selling low does not. Opie will get Drew Sample for him and fleece his leaguemates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, LordOpie said: You think i could get max value in camp and not wait until preseason? Unless you get blown away I'd hold onto him. If anything he should be one hell of a WR3 at worst. It's definitely a small gamble but could pay off in a big way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, LordOpie said: Thanks! I'm willing to take half of blown away. I traded three 1sts for deandre Hopkins some years ago. I'd take two firsts for Thomas Target a WR needy team, you never know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) On 2/26/2022 at 8:28 PM, rajncajn said: Honestly, I would never question his motivation or desire. For me, the only issues with him are whether he will stay healthy, offensive scheme and QB play. I am just as concerned about his mentals. He has been acting somewhat off kilter the last year or two and I dont exactly know what the bee in his bonnet is or if he is descending into diva-grievance territory. Yes he has been most valuable as a volume receiver so scheme matters. He is plenty talented, no issue there, I just dont know what his headspace is. Edited February 28, 2022 by purplemonster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fastdoc Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 2/26/2022 at 11:57 AM, LordOpie said: This is good. I'll use this info to trade Thomas because he cannot be trusted to either take care of himself or do what is best for the team. I'm not sure what happened last year, but Thomas is no longer with the risk. Fortunately, my league mates don't read the main forum, so I'm sure I'll have several offers for me to fleece. On 2/26/2022 at 1:56 PM, rajncajn said: He got bad advice and thought he could play, so he opted not to get the surgery. At the time he thought he was doing what was best for him and the team. He probably got the advice that surgery carried risks and he might be able to recover without it. But he also failed to keep his team informed and hurt their season. Unfortunately, I doubt I can trade him so I hope he rebounds well despite the NO turmoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 6 hours ago, 1fastdoc said: I doubt I can trade him so I hope he rebounds well despite the NO turmoil. I'll feel a lot more comfortable if it's Watson behind center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Thomas and Davenport to PUP: https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1550219063548338176?s=21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Big John said: Thomas and Davenport to PUP: https://twitter.com/fieldyates/status/1550219063548338176?s=21 It one thing to go on PUP when injured. It's another when you've been out for TWO YEARS. Dang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 29 minutes ago, DMD said: It one thing to go on PUP when injured. It's another when you've been out for TWO YEARS. Dang. There's question as to whether he even wants to play football anymore. There might some truth to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 This seems to be more a roster/exemption move to excuse him from contractual responsibilities and allow him to continue with his rehab process. He's continued to work out and has been running and cutting, so he should be fine. He can come off PUP at any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 12 hours ago, League_Champion said: There's question as to whether he even wants to play football anymore. Not from Mike Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Mike has a bad injury made worse by his own decision making. Whether he wants to play or not is almost immaterial to me fantasywise, he is on the do not draft list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 hours ago, rajncajn said: Not from Mike Thomas. Obviously there is. Not to mention it's been years since he's caught an NFL pass and he's 29. Not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 2 hours ago, League_Champion said: Obviously there is. Not to mention it's been years since he's caught an NFL pass and he's 29. Not good Other than being injured, which is not really within his control, every indication from MT is that he wants to be on the field, playing, asap. Year before last he got injured. Last year he took bad advice and skipped surgery because he was told it could heal on it's own. The only people giving any indication he doesn't want to play are media hacks trying to drum up a story. Thomas has posted multiple videos of himself working out, running and running routes. Here's one from his batch last week. If you click on it you'll see a few more with him making hard cuts and changing direction: That sure doesn't look like somebody who doesn't want to or is incapable of playing. If you go to MTs Instagram he posts vids all the time of him putting work in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fastdoc Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I traded him away for Thielen right before he exploded a couple years ago. Then I traded Evans to get him back right before he got injured. Before this I went through similar stress with AB. That's the one major downside to dynasty. Bad decisions linger. I hope Thomas looks incredible in the first 4 weeks, so I can get him off my roster permanenty. That will ensure he'll continue to play and set records into his 50's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I had to check in my league to confirm he was on a roster, which means he is eligible as a keeper. Not sure if that team carried him all year or not. Definitely some risk involved, especially if you are expecting him to return to elite status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, 1fastdoc said: I traded him away for Thielen right before he exploded a couple years ago. Then I traded Evans to get him back right before he got injured. Before this I went through similar stress with AB. That's the one major downside to dynasty. Bad decisions linger. I hope Thomas looks incredible in the first 4 weeks, so I can get him off my roster permanenty. That will ensure he'll continue to play and set records into his 50's. Totally understand why someone wouldn't want to take the risk because of age and/or risk of injury, but the idea that he doesn't want to play is nothing but media drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, rajncajn said: Totally understand why someone wouldn't want to take the risk because of age and/or risk of injury, but the idea that he doesn't want to play is nothing but media drama. I know you're a homer but jeeze. He's hasn't touched a football in 2 years, is 29 years old, STILL on PUP and in a new situation. When's the last time we've seen this pan out?? He's done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, League_Champion said: I know you're a homer but jeeze. He's hasn't touched a football in 2 years, is 29 years old, STILL on PUP and in a new situation. When's the last time we've seen this pan out?? He's done Sure, we can agree or disagree that he's done for any or all of those reasons. I have my own concerns on whether or not he can return to pre-injury form. I will say that I like what I've seen so far and I also like the fact that they've added players that will take some of the attention off of him. But, again, whether he'll be any good or not is obviously not from a lack of desire to play. That's the only thing I'm arguing with you about. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, rajncajn said: Sure, we can agree or disagree that he's done for any or all of those reasons. I have my own concerns on whether or not he can return to pre-injury form. I will say that I like what I've seen so far and I also like the fact that they've added players that will take some of the attention off of him. But, again, whether he'll be any good or not is obviously not from a lack of desire to play. That's the only thing I'm arguing with you about. We'll see, it's definitely not good. Especially if he's a step older and slower with a very inaccurate QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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