gbpfan1231 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Love to see the Bears and Packer fans giving Viking fans crap about not selling out the playoff game. (Have you guys sold out your playoff games? Oh yeah that's right you're sitting this year out.) I guess you're only a true fan of your team if you choose to spend $500+ to go to a football game instead of pay your bills, feed you family, pay your mortgage? The money was due into the Packer organization weeks ago and they had my moey and I bet they had more tickets sold than the Vikings do now. Don't get me wrong I can understand why it would be tough to sell those seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Love to see the Bears and Packer fans giving Viking fans crap about not selling out the playoff game. Love to see the Vikings fans rising to the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I will say this... there are a lot of things that factor into this... - The stadium. The atmosphere for tailgating at/near the Metrodome blows. Right or wrong, this is probably a factor in a lot of people's minds when considering whether or not to buy tickets to a game in January. Don't even get me started on the INSIDE of the dome... pay nearly the same outrageous prices for concessions that you would at most other (newer) parks, but don't get nearly the atmosphere to go with it. - Market size. You can't compare the Twin Cities to Chicago or New York (larger markets that also have four pro sports teams). You also can't compare it to Green Bay, which only has one pro sports team. That's not meant to be an excuse as much as it is an obvious observation, but I think it does factor into the equation. - Past history/success of the team. Once again, not an excuse, but the Vikings have notoriously disappointed over the years. Living in St. Paul during the Packers Super Bowl seasons of the early 90's, I can also tell you this... the number of die-hard Packers fans living on the West side of the MN/WI border grew significantly once the Packers started winning championships. Packers fans started coming out of the woodwork. So, I would agree to an extent that every team has their fair weather fans, just like I would agree that there ARE some die-hard Vikings fans as well. There are obviously a lot of other factors as well. The bottom line is that, although I think the tickets will eventually sell, I just wish as a fan who lives 1700+ miles away, that they would sell a little bit faster. I'll watch the game either way in CA... It's just irritating that a lot of the same fans who talk about wanting a new stadium for their NFL team choose not to fork over the cash for tickets when that same team makes it to the post-season somewhat unexpectedly (and, by that, I simply mean that most of us didn't see MN making it to the playoffs 3-4 weeks into the season). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 From 73-92(until Wolf arrived) the Packers averaged about 6 1/2 wins a year yet sold out every game. Green Bay had about 75,000 people. The whole state supported the team. We do have owners than the Vikings do though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) From 73-92(until Wolf arrived) the Packers averaged about 6 1/2 wins a year yet sold out every game. Green Bay had about 75,000 people. The whole state supported the team. We do have owners than the Vikings do though. One thing to keep in mind, though, is the people of WI own the Packers. I think everyone would agree people tend to be more passionate/supportive of something that is "theirs". Not to mention, its friggin Wisconsin! What in the heck else is there to do after Labor Day besides get drunk and watch the Packers?? Edited January 1, 2009 by Delicious_bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I will say this... there are a lot of things that factor into this... - The stadium. The atmosphere for tailgating at/near the Metrodome blows. Right or wrong, this is probably a factor in a lot of people's minds when considering whether or not to buy tickets to a game in January. Don't even get me started on the INSIDE of the dome... pay nearly the same outrageous prices for concessions that you would at most other (newer) parks, but don't get nearly the atmosphere to go with it. - Market size. You can't compare the Twin Cities to Chicago or New York (larger markets that also have four pro sports teams). You also can't compare it to Green Bay, which only has one pro sports team. That's not meant to be an excuse as much as it is an obvious observation, but I think it does factor into the equation. - Past history/success of the team. Once again, not an excuse, but the Vikings have notoriously disappointed over the years. Living in St. Paul during the Packers Super Bowl seasons of the early 90's, I can also tell you this... the number of die-hard Packers fans living on the West side of the MN/WI border grew significantly once the Packers started winning championships. Packers fans started coming out of the woodwork. So, I would agree to an extent that every team has their fair weather fans, just like I would agree that there ARE some die-hard Vikings fans as well. There are obviously a lot of other factors as well. The bottom line is that, although I think the tickets will eventually sell, I just wish as a fan who lives 1700+ miles away, that they would sell a little bit faster. I'll watch the game either way in CA... It's just irritating that a lot of the same fans who talk about wanting a new stadium for their NFL team choose not to fork over the cash for tickets when that same team makes it to the post-season somewhat unexpectedly (and, by that, I simply mean that most of us didn't see MN making it to the playoffs 3-4 weeks into the season). Well said, Goph. Big part of it is the economy, too, I'd wager. People are losing their homes and jobs at an alarming rate. And it appears its going to get worse before it gets better. NFL jacks up the prices on playoff tickets (despite laying people off itself) and expects people to run for their wallets? I am not about to call anyone out as a lousy fan cause they either cant afford tickets or chose to prioritize a football game a little lower on the list right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 From 73-92(until Wolf arrived) the Packers averaged about 6 1/2 wins a year yet sold out every game. Green Bay had about 75,000 people. The whole state supported the team. We do have owners than the Vikings do though. GB city population: 1970 census, 87,809 1980 census 87,899 1990 census 96,466 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 GB city population: 1970 census, 87,809 1980 census 87,899 1990 census 96,466 In 1970 the seating was a little over 56,000. We sold out through the oil embargo and vietnam. Average income. About $5000 more per. Buy tickets with it. Green Bay Wisconsin Median household income $47,059 $53,434 Average household Income $53,661 $60,962 Per capita income $23,323 $25,441 Median Disposable Income $40,283 $44,939 Minneapolis Minnesota Median household income $45,830 $57,422 Average household Income $58,517 $68,862 Per capita income $26,761 $28,109 Median Disposable Income $39,467 $47,909 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzkek Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Love to see the Bears and Packer fans giving Viking fans crap about not selling out the playoff game. (Have you guys sold out your playoff games? Oh yeah that's right you're sitting this year out.) I guess you're only a true fan of your team if you choose to spend $500+ to go to a football game instead of pay your bills, feed you family, pay your mortgage? I have been die hard Viking fan since I can remember, have seen them lose 4 Superbowls, 5 NFC Champ games, numerous other crushing losses, yet year after year I cheer for the Vikings. I have even raised my 4 year old to be a Viking fan (how cruel is that?) Lambeau and Soldier Field are AWESOME places to watch a game, the Dome sucks yet we still sel it out year after year even though we have had a medicore product for years. Are Vikings fans fairweather? Some are but every team has them. It is easy to be a fan when you have Superbowl wins to always look back on. I know lot's of bandwagon Packer and Bear fans... Viking fans don't have the corner on that market. Bottom line is this, football is a game, not my life. If choosing to spend my $ on essentials versus a playoff game makes me a bad fan then so be it. I am sure I am not alone. Times are tough I agree. Your speech brought a tear to my eye. If I were you I wouldn't waste any more of your money on fantasy football website memberships or fantasy football altogether. Stick to the free Yahoo leagues, because they aren't as costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) In 1970 the seating was a little over 56,000. We sold out through the oil embargo and vietnam. Average income. About $5000 more per. Buy tickets with it. Green Bay Wisconsin Median household income $47,059 $53,434 Average household Income $53,661 $60,962 Per capita income $23,323 $25,441 Median Disposable Income $40,283 $44,939 Minneapolis Minnesota Median household income $45,830 $57,422 Average household Income $58,517 $68,862 Per capita income $26,761 $28,109 Median Disposable Income $39,467 $47,909 Yeah, but the cost of living is 13% higher than in Green Bay so actually we have less money to spend than the people in Green Bay. Edited January 1, 2009 by Outshined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) Yeah, but the cost of living is 13% higher than in Green Bay. "Results for your new location $2,207 net change in disposable income" If you want to move because Green Bay's such a bargain it's OK with me. Edited January 1, 2009 by Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 "Results for your new location$2,207 net change in disposable income" If you want to move because Green Bay's such a bargain it's OK with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Love to see the Bears and Packer fans giving Viking fans crap about not selling out the playoff game. (Have you guys sold out your playoff games? Oh yeah that's right you're sitting this year out.) I guess you're only a true fan of your team if you choose to spend $500+ to go to a football game instead of pay your bills, feed you family, pay your mortgage? There were tickets available at 8AM WED for $30 each on ticketmaster. Checked now but the system was down. I bet you could still get cheap tickets. Not sure where that $500 price came from. I bought on 3 Tues and I'm a Packer fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I will say this... there are a lot of things that factor into this... - The stadium. The atmosphere for tailgating at/near the Metrodome blows. Right or wrong, this is probably a factor in a lot of people's minds when considering whether or not to buy tickets to a game in January. Don't even get me started on the INSIDE of the dome... pay nearly the same outrageous prices for concessions that you would at most other (newer) parks, but don't get nearly the atmosphere to go with it. I think everyone here will agree that the Metrodome is complete ass. My first visit there was for a baseball game, and I have hunch it will be the ONLY visit. - Market size. You can't compare the Twin Cities to Chicago or New York (larger markets that also have four pro sports teams). You also can't compare it to Green Bay, which only has one pro sports team. That's not meant to be an excuse as much as it is an obvious observation, but I think it does factor into the equation. Bah. Green Bay is 1/10th the size of the Twin Cities, not to mention both franchises have a statewide pull. - Past history/success of the team. Once again, not an excuse, but the Vikings have notoriously disappointed over the years. Living in St. Paul during the Packers Super Bowl seasons of the early 90's, I can also tell you this... the number of die-hard Packers fans living on the West side of the MN/WI border grew significantly once the Packers started winning championships. Packers fans started coming out of the woodwork. So, I would agree to an extent that every team has their fair weather fans, just like I would agree that there ARE some die-hard Vikings fans as well. I hate fair-weather Packer fans probably more than I hate fair-weather fans of ANY team...because I give them the "hey, why don't you root for Dallas, you'd fit right in" line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I will buy one ticket per fpacker fan on here, so you can see your division winners play. Sorry, I can only afford nose bleed seats. Only 9990 left now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 If I buy tickets I'll lose my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 8,000 tickets left and the NFL granted the Vikings an extension to get the tickets sold before they lock down the blackout. You can't tell me there's better things to do in the Twin Cities than go see an NFL playoff game. Wow, what an embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 well going fishen then viewing the game at a pub sounds much better to me.... but then again i think the players make to much money. Why don't the players get together and buy up some of those tickets and give them out. I know its hard to live on 4 million a year but in these tough times someone has to step up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 well going fishen then viewing the game at a pub sounds much better to me.... but then again i think the players make to much money. Why don't the players get together and buy up some of those tickets and give them out. I know its hard to live on 4 million a year but in these tough times someone has to step up. That was my plan...I was set to go up to Vermillion/Crane/Sand Point for Crappies and Snowmobiling this weekend. I could have watched the game because it probably will be televised up there since it is damn near in Canada. I got talked into going to the game with a couple other friends, so I will be hanging out down here and then going to the game on Sunday. If anybody else is going, I'll be somewhere on the plaza for the pregame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 well going fishen then viewing the game at a pub sounds much better to me.... but then again i think the players make to much money. Why don't the players get together and buy up some of those tickets and give them out. I know its hard to live on 4 million a year but in these tough times someone has to step up. Good point. It looks like someone someone bought the remaining tickets. If so maybe they bare giving them away. I think you can the game better on TV, but being at the game is exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Good point. It looks like someone someone bought the remaining tickets. If so maybe they bare giving them away. I know you were replying to Yukon so maybe you are using Yukonese here, but I'm not sure i understand what you are saying. Did someone buy the remaining tickets? Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I know you were replying to Yukon so maybe you are using Yukonese here, but I'm not sure i understand what you are saying. Did someone buy the remaining tickets? Link? I don't see anything on Star Tribune web site. Still 8,000 left to go before 3:30pm (the second deadline from the NFL) to avoid the blackout. Gonna be an uphill battle from here. Local TV has 16 advertising spots @ $20k apiece for a maximum income of $320,000 so realistically the most tickets they would buy at an average of $100 apiece is 1,600, or half the advertising revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) I know you were replying to Yukon so maybe you are using Yukonese here, but I'm not sure i understand what you are saying. Did someone buy the remaining tickets? Link? I looked at ticketmaster and only saw Cardinals tickets. It could be a glitch. Do you see tickets for sale? Called Ticketmaster and they have tickets ranging from $30-365. My bad. I've had troubled getting the Vikings system to load. Perhaps they know I'm a Packer fan. Edited January 2, 2009 by Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Scorp Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 In 1970 the seating was a little over 56,000. We sold out through the oil embargo and vietnam. Average income. About $5000 more per. Buy tickets with it. Green Bay Wisconsin Median household income $47,059 $53,434 Average household Income $53,661 $60,962 Per capita income $23,323 $25,441 Median Disposable Income $40,283 $44,939 Minneapolis Minnesota Median household income $45,830 $57,422 Average household Income $58,517 $68,862 Per capita income $26,761 $28,109 Median Disposable Income $39,467 $47,909 Weren't half the home game in Milwaukee during the 70's??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I just checked - there are tickets left and good ones too if you want to pony up $160 per ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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